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Bank Rolls Vs. Mint Rolls - Is There A Difference?

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 Posted 03/11/2013  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joeykoins to your friends list
To me,the only difference is the wrapper and price! Esp. the price! I have many boxes of the 2009 Bicentennial Lincoln pennies,from my bank. I paid face value ($25) for each box. Since then,I've opened many rolls. I've found many,many exquisite examples in these rolls/boxes. I feel the results wouldn't be any different from the mint. Except,the ones from the mint,you would have to dish out quite a fortune,compared to face value. So in my humble opinion,the bank,is the best route. If available? These rolls I have are going for almost 8-10 times face value on the bay. Now which would you choose? -joey
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 Posted 03/11/2013  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman24 to your friends list
Keep in mind that bank wrapped rolls which appear to be all new coins could have older coins mixed in. this is a real slim chance but it could happen. The armor truck companies dont wrap coins for collectors but just for business.
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 Posted 03/11/2013  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hinstar to your friends list
I went to the bank and got 2 rolls of pennies, 2 rolls of nickels, 1 roll of dimes and 1 roll of qurters. The two nickels had different packaging. But the only difference is price and wrapper. Which the bank is easy. I see 25$ penny boxes going overboard on ebay though.
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 Posted 03/12/2013  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joeykoins to your friends list
Probably,the penny boxes you are seeing on the 'bay,are the 2009 Bicentennials. These have very interesting varieties inside (hopefully). That is the reason for sky rocket prices! Check "Wexler's" website on these,you'll see why the prices are high on these bank boxes. I love them,thus,the reason for my ending thumbs, they stand for the "double thumb" varieties in the 2009P series. -joey
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 Posted 03/12/2013  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list
As you said you are paying more for the wrapper.

The upside is you get the rolls right away vs. having to ask at the bank week after week to see if they got any solid rolls of the new coins in.

Unless you are talking half dollars then you have to get them from the mint or wait for them to dump them into circulation after they take them off of their website for sale.
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 Posted 08/04/2018  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anth44 to your friends list
I bought $50 worth of 2015 pennies from the bank. Never used or opened. What is the approximate Low and High grade do you think these may be in? Anyone ever looked at theirs?
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 Posted 08/04/2018  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
To CCF Anth44! The grades will depend, since they usually get banged around in the hopper at the U.S. Mint.
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 Posted 08/05/2018  01:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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What is the approximate Low and High grade do you think these may be in?


They can honestly be all over the place. Somewhere one of those rolls may have a top pop sitting in it, but overall you're likely looking at low to mid MS like 63-65
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 Posted 06/07/2019  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spiritawahili to your friends list
Hey everyone...

So here it is. I'm very new to all of this. So I want to make absolutely clear of what I am hearing. If I go to my bank and get any roll of coins they give me and I find some coins that are in top notch shape, very clean, not much dings or scratches, luster is good and all of that... Does this mean that that coin is considered to be in the "mint state" condition and can PCGS slab a coin as an MS67 or whatever? I see on PCGS "business strike" label on their website and grades that are MS68. Someone here in my home town says that the "business Strike" coins can never be considered an MS no matter what. Thanks for the help
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Hey everyone...

So here it is. I'm very new to all of this. So I want to make absolutely clear of what I am hearing. If I go to my bank and get any roll of coins they give me and I find some coins that are in top notch shape, very clean, not much dings or scratches, luster is good and all of that... Does this mean that that coin is considered to be in the "mint state" condition and can PCGS slab a coin as an MS67 or whatever? I see on PCGS "business strike" label on their website and grades that are MS68. Someone here in my home town says that the "business Strike" coins can never be considered an MS no matter what. Thanks for the help


They would be incorrect. All that matters for the grade of a coin is the current condition that it is in. It doesn't matter if it came out of a cash register, the cup holder in the car, an album, a mint set etc the coins are graded by their condition. Obviously you're a lot less likely to get a high quality coin depending on the method but it is possible though very rare to find high end moderns in change or at the bank.
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 Posted 06/07/2019  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Big-Kingdom to your friends list
I think "business strike" became an identifier around the same time the mint made satin finish on the mint sets, just to differentiate the mint set satin finish coins from the regular business strike coins.

Before then the only thing I ever heard was circulated, uncirculated and proof.

Not sure about this though, just my theory. Mint set coins and fresh date rolled coins from a bank were the same appearance mostly, there really wasn't any difference as far as the grading companies were concerned and the best examples would usually come from the mint sets.

2005-2010 was around when the "business strike" thing became a thing I think.

And if the coins in the roll"have not much dings or scratches it's not grading above a MS65. To get 67 and above it would need to be free of marks visible to the eye without magnification. MS 67 and above are exception coins and near flawless.
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 Posted 06/07/2019  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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Before then the only thing I ever heard was circulated, uncirculated and proof.


Many people use some of those terms incorrectly. Proof is a type of coin just as business strike refers to coins that are intended for commerce. Uncirculated and circulated are grades not types of coins. Business strikes, proofs, specimens, satin finish, colorized, reverse proof etc can all be circulated or uncirculated.


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To get 67 and above it would need to be free of marks visible to the eye without magnification. MS 67 and above are exception coins and near flawless.


There can still be marks just not severe ones. A lot of the top pop ultra moderns and moderns have tremendous luster, one of those coins you could pick out of a pile from 10 feet away seeing they're clearly exceptional. The luster and surface preservation plays a huge role
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 Posted 06/08/2019  07:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spiritawahili to your friends list
Wow, what great information. You don't know how much searching I've been doing on coins and trying to get a straight answer. Thank you all you're the best.
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