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p, refresh my memory. What should a Regal Hp weigh?
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That Stacks listing I gave weighed in at 134 grains. The Stacks people apparently noted the overstrike, and the cataloguer fished out a "worn George II halfpenny" and weighed it at 131.5 grains.
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Got it. First thing I'll do when I get home from work tonight @ 11pm PST.
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seems they vary...
1770â€"1775 (all years). Weight 9.2â€"10.8 grams, diameter 29â€"30 millimetres. Obverse shows a right-facing bust of the king, with the inscription GEORGIVS III REX, reverse shows a left-facing seated Britannia holding a spray and spear, with the inscription BRITANNIA and the date in the exergue beneath Britannia. (The king's bust has a fuller face in 1774 and 1775). 1799. Weight 12.0â€"13.1 grams, diameter 30â€"31 millimetres. Obverse shows a right-facing bust of the king, with the inscription GEORGIVS III DEI GRATIA REX, reverse shows a redesigned left-facing seated Britannia holding a spray and spear, with the inscription BRITANNIA 1799.
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My scale does it all. I'll do grain and gram.
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For those of you playing at home, one gram is 15.4323584 grains.
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Okay, hold on to your seats! I don't know what I have here.
I weighed the coin and weighed a problem free Connecticut Copper in my collection. First, the discussed coin:
156.9 grains 10.20 grams
Problem free Connec.
105.1 grains 6.83 grams
By the way, my scale is perfectly calibrated.
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Well, the official regal halfpenny standard at mid-century was 46 to the pound (152.2 grains). Would be interesting to see if x-ray spectrometry turns up a lot of lead, though, like some of the contemporary counterfeits. What should a cast counterfeit look like after being struck over in a press?
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I'm going to contact someone at the EAC. I'm fairly confident this is struck on something foreign. It's heavy.
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Edited by philadelphian 03/12/2013 4:55 pm
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Disclaimer: I know absolutely ZILCH about colonials.
With that said, the Palatine immigration from Germany to America was quite large, with over 2100 immigrants settling in the New York/Pennsylvania/New Jersey area in 1709-1711, and there was a second wave of immigrants in 1717. Do any German coins from this time period match the weight of this mystery overstrike?
I also find the French and Indian War (our part in the Seven Years' War) in the present-day Midwest, between 1754 and 1763. The American part of the war began in the Ohio Valley, which--geographically speaking--is a spit's distance from Connecticut. This area was settled by both the French and Spanish. Do we have a weight match in either francs or pesetas?
I could probably keep hunting out other countries who claimed colonies in the present-day US at that time, but I think those were the "big three" most likely to have coinage circulating widely enough for something to get pulled and restruck.
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I'm in the process of determining weights of any and all coins which were either brought here for use as currency in the Colonies or possibly, any copper coins brought over by Quakers or immigrants, which would include British as well as German, French, and Dutch coinage.
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vermontensium,
If you don't find a match there, look in Spanish coins. I know most of the Spanish settlements were in the southwest, but trade routes almost certainly existed and it's not out of the question (if I can get handed a one-baht coin at a cash register in Arizona in 2012 . . . . ). Even if there were no routes from New Mexico to Connecticut, a Spanish settler hands a coin to a French trader who hands it to another French trader who hands it to a Native who hands it to another Native who uses it to buy something from a Scotsman in Ohio . . . . and there you go, Spanish money in the northeast.
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Exactly. Yeah, out here where I am (So. Cal), Spaniards were all over the place; Missions are the only evidence you need. Your theory is quite plausible.
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Finger crossed... 
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