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$50 Over Print Of Serial Numbers?

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 Posted 03/17/2013  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purplenat75 to your friends list


Q1. The serial number of the note is EA 09810831

Q2. You can not see it from the other side unless you hold it up to the light you can see it then.

Q3. Yes you can easily see it without magnification.

Q4. More pics are being posted now if you need anymore let me know, these are just scanned should I take a photo with the camera?

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 Posted 03/17/2013  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purplenat75 to your friends list


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 Posted 03/17/2013  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Unicorn to your friends list
to CCF purplenat75

Very interesting.

I think that the line through the last 0 is also the same line that is in the "4" and that it is really a 1.

Hence I think the number is 000180 with a - through the 1 and final 0.

Still has me thinking what, where, how and why though.
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 Posted 03/18/2013  04:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list
It certainly is an interesting note. I wonder if the RBA could shed any light onto it or come up with an explanation of how it came about.

It has all the hallmarks of being a genuine error to me, but I'd love to see what Goatieman thinks about it as well.

Great images Nat.
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 Posted 03/18/2013  04:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list
I am wondering if it has something to do with wet serial numbers on another note being transferred to this one.
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 Posted 03/18/2013  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purplenat75 to your friends list
It is interesting and puzzling.I think I will email the RBA with the above photos nancy and see if they can shed any light and let you all know if I get a response.
I also agree with you the unicorn it does look like those numbers now you have pointed it out.
Who's goatieman and how do we ask him Nancy?
Thanks again
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 Posted 03/18/2013  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notcb to your friends list
Hi,

Why not send an email with the pictures to Trevor Wilkins @ trevorsnotes@bigpond.com?

Trevor knows just about everything about the ins and outs of the production process that NPA uses for Australian polymer notes.

Cheers

Peter (notcb)

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 Posted 03/18/2013  06:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purplenat75 to your friends list
Thanks notcb when I was searching the net he was the first person we came across and emailed him first he just said had no idea.
Formerly nancyc
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 Posted 03/18/2013  08:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list
Goatieman is a member here and will most likely be quite interested in this note.
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 Posted 03/18/2013  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list
I'll email goatie & see if he can pop in.
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 Posted 03/18/2013  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goatieman23 to your friends list
I'm not sure about this one. I could simply say that it is/was just a stamp.
But there's always going to be uncertainty.
The shapes of the digits don't represent shapes of the digits within serial numbers on polymer notes.
The numbers aren't straight in regards to the notes wording "FIFTY".
As for the dash? "-", it could've been double stamped & executed extremely well.
Also, it positioning so close to the end of the note could mean that there were more digits?
That's all the light I can shed on this unusual find.

As for the numbers...co-relation? No.
if it was 180 sheets, a serial number expectance would be 7200 (based on 40 notes per sheet)?
Prefixes of the only note printed in 2009 would be 6x40=240
Deduct the two & there is 60 prefixes difference. Which wouldn't be EA (8 prefixes short), it would be EH.
But that's all just mumbo jumbo that I put together.

That's all folks.
Maybe even send it to Mick Ronald Vort, he know's his sh.tuff.
Edited by goatieman23
03/18/2013 6:40 pm
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 Posted 03/19/2013  01:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list
I must say that I'm a little disappointed if thats all it is,it really looks to me as if it was there before the FIFTY was because the colour does'nt go over the black ink of FIFTY.
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 Posted 03/19/2013  02:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notcb to your friends list
Hi,

I think you will find that it is a serial or product number associated with the polymer substrate, which would normally have been guillotined from the end or beginning of the roll before entering the simultan printing press for insertion of the colour bars on the substrate.

You say that there is clear evidence that the colour bars cover the serial numbers, indicating that it was there before the printing process commenced.

The fact that the serial number is upside down makes sense when you consider how a substrate roll might have been prepared.

Just the same, it is a very unusual error - certainly like nothing I have ever seen in my polymer note collection over the years. The nearest thing to it would be some of the selvedge numbers on the original uncut sheets of the 1988 $10 polymer notes.

Cheers

Peter (notcb)
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 Posted 03/19/2013  03:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purplenat75 to your friends list
Im hoping after all the excitement the note has created it is a genuine error its hard for you to tell only by the computer screen but when its in your hands it looks like the numbers are embedded if thats the right term in the paper not stamped on top, if it is a stamp post production you would think it would smudge but I dont no nothing about notes as mentioned earlier? After looking on this site I think it may soon become something I am wanting to learn about reading and looking at other posts on here is getting addictive I need to find another collector in our area to look at it we did get one couple to look at it who said its a genuine error they told us to list it on ebay,but I want to know more about it and what it is. Does anyone know any way of telling if it is just a stamp? I still have to email RBA just been busy will try do that tonight. Thanks for your input Goatieman.
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 Posted 03/20/2013  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goatieman23 to your friends list
Always here to try & help with notes...at the end of the day, anyone I can help with polymer knowledge will expand my knowledge of polymers!
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