Ebay Auction Fraud

The news did a report tonight on tv. They reported that
recently the founder of ebay was asked (by top law enforcement officials) to stop allowing dangerous and poisonous substances to
be sold that would kill or maim people.
He declined to get involved. I just don't understand
why ebay continues to look the other way? Another fine example of a great site gone to the dregs.

On this point we can agree at least. No one can stop you from using rope to hang yourself.

Printed with written permission from TAG.
Just an FYI for those with ebay Accounts.


UNANNOUNCED REVISION TO ebay USER AGREEMENT
AND PRIVACY POLICY
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In a move that is in direct violation of the ebay user agreement, ebay has made a change
to the ebay user agreement and privacy policy without announcing it on the ebay
announcement board. The agreement is immediately effective for user IDs registered as of
16 May 07 and for users registered prior to 16 May, effective 9 Jul 07.

Some ebay users received an email on the subject dated 21 May 07, but this was not a
universal mailing by any degree. For example TAG received the email on one of 10
accounts registered on ebay. Interestingly the account the email was received on was not
an active account, nor the only one with the option allowing ebay to send email.

A quick read of the agreement and privacy policy appears to give ebay the right to read
and censor all email sent using their system, something ebay said it would never do (as a
matter of interest last week ebay blocked an email with promotion information sent to
another user through the ebay system, so communication between users is now closed
unless involved in an ebay sale - so much for community); permission for ebay to
exchange all financial and other personal information between ebay and PayPal and any
other ebay company, something ebay said it would never do; permission to allow ebay to
share, sell or rent your financial and personal information to anyone they want, something
ebay said they would never do; permission for ebay to personalize ads based on your
personal and financial information that they have gathered and saved about you,
something ebay said it would never do; in other words it abrogates everything that would
protect your personal and financial information from being exploited by ebay in any way
ebay desires - and since you sign the user agreement by using the site - ebay feels you
have no recourse - and only a court of law will change that.

In addition ebay is once again playing with the copyright of your information - images,
listings etc - and though they have always sworn that the only reason they have the
copyright privileges of your material is so that they can post your listings on the site, they
are trying to once again twist this so they can do whatever they want with this information.
Once again a successful class action, suit by state attorneys' general, or government action
will be the only thing that gives ebay users any rights at all - since ebay continues to
pervert what community means into whatever is profitable for ebay insiders.

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THE AUCTION GUILD
and eTRADERS GUILD
www.auctionguild.com
Not just a venue
http://www.auctionguild.com
email us - tag@theauctionguild.com

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A quick read of the agreement and privacy policy appears to give ebay the right to read and censor all email sent using their system, something ebay said it would never do

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They've been doing it for a long time. I personally couldn't care less. Especially if it helps to stop spam and phishing attacks. I've got nothing to hide. I wish they would stop all the questions that are already answered plainly in the listing.

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permission for ebay to exchange all financial and other personal information between ebay and PayPal and any other ebay company, something ebay said it would never do;

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Always been that way. I don't recall them ever saying they would never do it. I don't see a problem with it anyway.

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permission to allow ebay to share, sell or rent your financial and personal information to anyone they want, something ebay said they would never do;

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Outright lie. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies...-policy.html

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permission for ebay to personalize ads based on your personal and financial information that they have gathered and saved about you, something ebay said it would never do;

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You can turn it on or off in your preferences. Who cares. In fact, if I must look at ads, I'd rather them not be for feminine hygeine so I'm turning it on.

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In addition ebay is once again playing with the copyright of your information - images, listings etc - and though they have always sworn that the only reason they have the copyright privileges of your material is so that they can post your listings on the site, they are trying to once again twist this so they can do whatever they want with this information.

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Nothing new. This is old news from 2 years ago, that started when they limited closed auction searches to two weeks and started selling the info to companies like Terapeak. I hate to tell you, but ebay has always had the rights to your listings once you post them. It is indeed a touchy subject, however every forum on the Internet could be questioned the same way. It's absurd.

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They asked me to post their info, so why don't you contact them directly.

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I have no desire to. Their opinions mean nothing to me, because I form my own opinions. "Bashing" sites always do the same thing, they spin the facts in such a way that it fits their agenda hoping that a bunch of sheep are reading and won't do the sensible thing. Like go and read the privacy policy and make up their own mind.

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Your "who cares" answers are that, I do. I care, because any more info that is out there in cyberspace about me or anyone else that uses the internet is just another way for cyber scammers to take advantage of unsuspecting individuals.

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How is your info out in cyberspace? I don't understand. They are using your info to serve relevant ads (which you can turn off) based on what they know about you. If you think this constitutes your personal info out in cyberspace, well, OK.

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If ebay said they would "never do it", then WHY are they doing it?

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1. I don't think you could ever find where ebay ever said they "would never do it". Again they're hoping the sheep will believe. Did they cite examples?

2. I find it interesting that all of a sudden they're mad about this stuff when most of it is far from anything new.

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I am truly impressed with the quality and protection afforded by their tinfoil hats

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These one liners are the reason I love to read your posts.

Oooh! Ooooh! Ouch!