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What Is "Recolored" For Copper Coins?

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 Posted 04/27/2013  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
this is the stuff most people use to recolor copper http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nic-A-Tone-...em589f472674 The reason they use it is because once a copper coin is cleaned it has a pinkish color to it and looks very unnatural so they use products like this to re-tone the coin so it has a more natural look to it. This is a picture of the same coin coin before and after recoloring when done correctly. ebay is littered with ones done incorrectly so no real need to post any of them
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 Posted 04/27/2013  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
Bryan1315, do you feel that re-colored coins, like the one you posted, is devalued due to this process?
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 Posted 04/27/2013  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Bryan1315, do you feel that re-colored coins, like the one you posted, is devalued due to this process?


Of course. Recolored coins get Details grades from TPG's as well. The devaluation is perhaps not as serious as a cleaned coin, but substantial all the same. It's no longer original either way.
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 Posted 04/27/2013  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Re-coloring is just that, an attempt by an unethical person to cover or hide surface problems such as a cleaning but not limited to that.
Dellars Darkener is one of the agents used.
After seeing enough of them, they become easy to detect.
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 Posted 04/27/2013  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jarubla to your friends list
Thx for the share, all!

Thinking of changing my name to 'grasshopper' as the more I read, the more I realize I never knew!!

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 Posted 04/28/2013  04:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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do you feel that re-colored coins, like the one you posted, is devalued due to this process?

Devalued due to the re-coloring, no. The coin has already been seriously devalued by the cleaning. A good recoloring job that improves the appearance would actually increase the value. It won't restore the value to what an original coin would be, but it can be more than a cleaned stripped coin. On the other hand a BAD recoloring job could devalue the coin more.
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 Posted 04/28/2013  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
how much, in your opinions, by percentage would you devalue a re-colored coin, lets say if the recolor was done well as in the example? 50%? 75%...
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 Posted 04/29/2013  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arkmanxx to your friends list
Bryan1315, the example you gave shows a very drastic difference between the cleaned, and recolored coin. On the computer screen the color looks normal to me except that I see a shiny type appearance around the eyebrow. What signs should I look for to spot deceptive coins like these?
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 Posted 04/29/2013  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
If the recoloring is done well by someone who has experience doing it, it can be tougher to spot.
Many times, you will notice blotchiness or uneven application showing brown with underlying orange or reddish coloration peeking through.
I'll try to dig up some photo examples.
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 Posted 04/29/2013  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stringboogie to your friends list
my thoughts are if it improves the look of an otherwise unattractive coin its not a bad thing but should be disclosed to any prospective buyers
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 Posted 04/29/2013  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Bryan1315, the example you gave shows a very drastic difference between the cleaned, and recolored coin. On the computer screen the color looks normal to me except that I see a shiny type appearance around the eyebrow. What signs should I look for to spot deceptive coins like these?


Bryan's example is a poster child for recoloring. It's too perfect. It screams "I'm NOT ORIGINAL" to me.
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 Posted 04/29/2013  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
That walnut brown "too evenly smooth" color should throw up flags.
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 Posted 04/29/2013  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list
ok so here is a pic of a recently sold coin on e-bay that has that too perfect look to it. Do you think it has been messed with? Coin sold for over $600 raw. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1846-Braide...t_771wt_1149
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 Posted 04/30/2013  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arkmanxx to your friends list
jerryc39, to me, the obverse of that one looks darker than I would expect. Almost gray-like color vs brown.

Is the recoloring more obvious in person than on the computer screen? SsuperDdave, I agree. It shouldn't look that good for such an old coin
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 Posted 04/30/2013  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list
I did not buy this coin. It was on my watch list but got pretty pricey for a raw coin.
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