2015-2017 Liberty Coinage

@pap

So the mint is supposed to lose money putting things out? Honestly if you feel its a fleecing then dont buy it. If people didnt buy it they would stop making it. They absolutely release the same things to many time in different packages imo, so I dont buy the ones I dont like but enough people do buy it that they keep doing it.

@saint
Ive never once heard lincoln called the worst president ever. FDR is overrated, but was a fine war time leader so he gets a pass on the home front to an extent. Kennedy is probably the biggest head scratcher. If he hadnt been killed we probably arent talking about him much today. Overall though it is a pretty controversy free group. A TR half would be sweet.

Theres no reason we should have anyone but presidents or founding fathers on coins if were going to have real people. If you start allowing the general public on it it really does just become political statements. Not to mention theres several founding fathers that have not been on it and they shouldnt be passed over if were going the real people route.

I like variety as much as the next guy but honestly with how the nickel and penny went I'm worried about what they would come up with and choose to do with a complete over haul. I like the idea of ending most of them soon on their anniversary dates but maybe we should replace those in charge of picking the designs first

Lincoln happens when you get into the really backwoods parts of the Old South. Out of the backwoods, it's a bit more restrained, and you'll occasionally hear "he suspended habeus corpus." While true, you hear it from people who have no idea what habeus corpus is and have just latched onto it because it's the only acceptable way they can register their displeasure anymore, what with simply saying racist things having become taboo. Obviously, not everyone in the Old South is a racist buffoon, but it's generally the racist buffoons who grab onto the "hate Lincoln" thing. It's rather bizarre.

Fair point about Lincoln, I dont really put any weight into it personally. In small enough groups you can find people who will say anything.





By no means was he irrelevant, but he wasnt actually a game changer either. He certainly wouldnt be on a coin right now without the assassination. The thing thats so hard to judge is he was cut short unfortunately. Generally over time as presidents get more rope they are liked less and hang them self with it so to speak. He barely got past his honeymoon period of his first time, plus you dont get honest reactions looking back after the fact. By no means did he win a landslide but if you polled people after the fact you would have though it was a unanimous election. Not really a knock on him though I guess it is, I just dont put him on the he should be one of the 5 currently on a coin level.

Doug good point. I wasnt alive at the time so I personally dont have a before and after image of him, though I do understand the bay of pigs was a bigger deal than its made out to be now. Id like to see that on a farewell coin if possible for the series. I guess for assissinations I try and look at it where if that didnt happen would we have this, with Lincoln winning the civil war I think you can say yes with JFK I'm not so sure. I might feel differently had I lived though that day in Dallas I cant say for sure.

Im fine with getting rid of them completely, though theres a couple I think should get a turn before we do or have a mix of some denominations have them and some dont. While I like old coins I dont really just want to start old series again either. Maybe as a one off anniversary year type thing, but surely were more creative than that. Also like mentioned I havent been impressed with the new Nickel and Penny so if thats what theyd all look like Id personally rather keep what we have

The political discussion has been somewhat relevant, but there is a good chance it could hijack this thread.

That being said, let's move back towards the original topic.

paparet. So basically you are complaining that the Mint offers up a wide variety of products for the consumer to choose from. Said consumer has the right to buy or not buy of their own free will. No one puts a gun to your head. These products they offer generally are accepted by the target consumers and are therefor purchased. Again, in a completely open market where the consumers do not have to purchase the items.

But they do.

And the mint makes money.

OK, now that I type that out I see how awful that is. How absolutely horrid that business model is.

Saint, thank you for the explanation. You are the first person I have seen who has actually said WHY they don't want the Presidents on the coins. I will not respond further however, as if I did, Jbuck would surely cyber slap me.

I personally view the new design as a new series which I am not taking part of. I cant imagine them changing it again that quickly, the penny either, though I wish they would

I think the interesting thing is - most of us are the only ones who will care what they do to the coins, and most of the rest of the public won't really even know or care - until a change is made.

I hope they do something that would pique interest. Maybe even a shock value like the 1916 Standing Liberty quarter..

I have to agree tho - the recent trend in designs has me worried they'll fail to actually choose any that would be interesting.