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Maybe the forum should consider having a Sticky at the top for a lot of the really tough pieces that our members find? At the very least, the CCF Numismatic Glossary here should be expanded to include Canadian terms. US grading companies and collectors use Cameo and Deep Cameo whereas Canadians tend to have three classifications, Cameo, Heavy Cameo, Ultra Heavy CameoUltra heavy cameos in proof-like, specimen and business strikes are inherently scarce, they represent the first strikes from a new (or reworked) set of dies, and the survival rate of the business strikes in gem grades makes them extremely tough. Of course, all proof struck coins are ultra heavy cameo. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Nice one!
Nothing in the entire Elizabeth series can match the beauty of pristine HC and UHC coins IMO.
Can you show the reverse,please?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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I think that all SP $20 Gold were in UHC mode. ,..at least the ones of mine from 67 were.(Black Leather Case) Bought them at $35 a pop for the whole set directly from the mint in those days when gold or silver had not really moved yet...
BTW,..I melted a lot of gold and silver last year when it went over $1800/oz. Maybe that was my bad...but it seemed right at the time and I hadn't started on this forum or playing really with my coin collection.
I sold what I considered a lot of "early junk coin collecting",... and pieces that I felt would never move out of BV... I did check for varieties ,..and kept them though...but I probably missed a few lesser ones that went to melt..
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I think that all SP $20 Gold were in UHC mode. ,..at least the ones of mine from 67 were.(Black Leather Case) Bought them at $35 a pop for the whole set directly from the mint in those days when gold or silver had not really moved yet..I've had about 12 graded by ICCS and this is the only UHC....I do have a SP67 HC that is spectacular.....grades range from SP60 to SP67 HC, with most (the average grade) being a SP65 Cameo. Perhaps you were thinking that they were all SP strikes? 
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UHC are just drop-dead gorgeous!  These are some excellent examples!  Edited by oih82w8
06/27/2013 3:10 pm
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I must admit,..when I look at the 2 above SP $20 gold pieces, I don't see a difference in the cameo effect. To me,..All of my $20 gold were heavy cameos and no one would give me a dollar more than melt at any time...
The SP 64 must have been handled a bit to get that lower # and then it didn't help that it was also dropped once.
Unfortunately, ..Gold does not let you get away with dropping it...
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The 1967 SP64 UHC was already holdered when I bought it, the SP67 HC was a different story....when I bought it, the guy had it in his hand, carefully, but it wasn't in any holder at that time.
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I think that the ultra part is decided by eye appeal?
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Ultra part means absolutely everything in the obverse devices must be heavily frosted, including the corner of the eye and the deeper folds on the gown....
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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out of curiosity, what would the price be for such a coin? ... roughly
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I think this falls under SPPs previous comment on another thread of "throw the book out and pay what it takes". My personal rule of thumb is +10% for Cameo, +25 to 50% for Heavy Cameo and + 100% for UHC. That may be why I don't have many UHCs though!
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I found this coin in the wild, and cut it out of a proof-like set... half my UHC 1-cent coins have been found that way over the past decade... You just have to be patient, and persistent.
I already turned down a $200 offer on this coin. Not because I thought it was not enough money, but because it simply is not for sale...
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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interesting, thanks for the honest reply. I would have assumed that its not for sale, I too would keep it in my collection for a long time. very nice find. I will have a closer look at it at the next coin expo I hope :P
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