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1944 NFLD 5 Cent ...hc

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 Posted 08/08/2013  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list
No specimens issued for 1944 1c according to Charlton.
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 Posted 08/09/2013  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
Thanks for that...

SPP did explain how acid dipping and polishing of the high surfaces of the dies would give a few cameos for the first few strikes. Maybe they did that a more often than we think...




Packrat...Could you post pics of your cameos.. Everyone here loves cameo pieces..?
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 Posted 08/09/2013  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list
Nice coin Dev! Could you explain a little more on the acid dipping and die polishing and how that would cause the cameo appearance? I have a 1901 5 cent silver that seems to be a circulation strike, but has a cameo appearance, and I always wondered about that...
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 Posted 08/10/2013  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
I can only speculate on the process seeing as SPP brought this to our attention.

1...If you treat the whole coin (in this case with an acid dip), you're whole coin becomes frosty to some extent. Now remember that all is reversed in the die process.

2...If you polish the highest surfaces (those would now be the fields of the coin),

3...and the bust (being the lowest surface of the coin) would now mainly remain untouched and frosty or 'cameod' in the few first coins.

The striking of many pieces would quickly loose the frost due to the impact force on the silver or nickel.


That's my quick take on this process anyway... SPP could probably explain in a better way....
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 Posted 08/10/2013  10:39 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Nice coin. Love the contrast with the mirrors and frosting... It would be an ultra heavy cameo, if it were not for the ear, upper crown and jawline being lighter.

Have you checked out the Perth Collection, on the PCGS registry? It will make your jaw drop to the floor. I have held most of those coins in my hands, at the pub at Toronto coin shows... I should tell the owner to get the rest of his coins photographed!!

www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/alltimeset.aspx?s=53927
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 Posted 08/10/2013  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
Thanks for the heads up on the Perth Collection and I will check it out......
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 Posted 08/10/2013  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barriecarson to your friends list
Great eye SPP! I can only now see those areas on the coin since you have pointed them out.

How earily in the die life would this coin have been strike?
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 Posted 08/11/2013  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
I don't see any DC's in it so I also wonder why it would be "refurbished",.?

....seeing as there are no listed specimens.

SPP might have the right answer for us here...

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SPP Thanks..!!

.. for the heads up on the Perth Collection and yes it was "jaw dropping" ....

... and I too would have loved to see more pics of those other "super gems" listed there.



Would even like to see other older NFLD cameos too...but where are they..?

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 Posted 11/02/2013  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
I saw this coin, in hand today. These photos do not even come close how incredible this piece was in hand... thanks for showing me your coins DEVLEC, it was great meeting you.
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 Posted 11/02/2013  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
Spot on grade!

Nice coin.
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 Posted 11/03/2013  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
SPP...You're very welcome ..!!.. and the pleasure was truly mine..

Thanks for offering so much of your time and expertize to me.

Tell Jamie that I've now added his "spirited comments..Oh ****" to those 'key coin' holders.... This 44 included.. I just hope that PCGS will too....

We will be seeing more of each other...Thanks for making it a great visit..
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 Posted 11/03/2013  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fredor to your friends list
Did someone here end up purchasing this?
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 Posted 11/03/2013  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list
I sure do love looking at this coin... even if it's just the photos
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 Posted 11/04/2013  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
This is part of my present collection,.... which was mainly built up in the 70's and 80's.
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 Posted 11/04/2013  12:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
Most attractive coin! Thanks for sharing.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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