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Om- The Last Sassanid Bust!

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 Posted 08/31/2013  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
Yea at some point I need to get me a Seljuks. Thanks TIF, lol.
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 Posted 08/31/2013  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list
Amazing finds.

Why did they seek to imitate the obverse coin of the Sasanian kingdom, was that kingdom and its coinage seen in India as a " de rigueur" example?
I know that by the date of these examples, the exiled Zoroastrian Persians (Parsees) were established in Western India, such as Gujarat and the Maharashtra, especially the city of Mumbai.

At the same time, in Anatolia, the Seljuk Sultans bore names such as "Khusru".
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 Posted 08/31/2013  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
I have developed and interest in these coins thanks to you Nate, but I have haven't been able to buy coins for a long while as you know. Sometime down the road when I'm able I would love to acquire some of these. The history of the region is very interesting and these are two really nice coins.
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 Posted 08/31/2013  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
Masis-

I think the answer as to why they chose a Sassanid style bust is just that. The drachms of Peroz circulated among the Hunnic tribes for centuries in Asia prior to the fall of Persia to the Arab invaders. The drachms of Khusro were also circulated in Asia and widely copied by the early Muslim rulers, but imitations of such circulated in India for many centuries beyond the Muslim coinage reform that brought you the text based coins so often seen.

I think you hit the nail on the head, with your statement. These just "looked' like a coin, a bust on one side and an altar on the other, 4 grams and silver, good enough to get you what you wanted.

I think by the time the Omkara coin was minted the meaning of the Zoroastrian fire altar and AhuraMazda and the name of the king on the obverse had been lost to time. The Persian exiles had long mingled with native populations had fallen under the denomination of numerous heathen tribes. I am sure in the Muslim world at this time some remnant of the accomplishments of Persia remained. I do not believe this was the case in India, long cut of by the various Huns that dominated the lands as well as the barrier created by the Kshatrapas and Guptas of the centuries before.

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 Posted 08/31/2013  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
Well now that you have completed the series, you are going to have to do a write up about them. I'm looking forward to seeing them. Congrats on completing your goal.
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 Posted 08/31/2013  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
Well as far as completing a set Like the Roman Emperors that is a lofty goal. Think of it as having a Zeno. I have many of the representative types but as far as having them all, well I don't think any one has them all. there are many, super expensive intermediate types. I have 90% of them I would say. Many just one of each period. A nice spread will show the degradation of the type.
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 Posted 08/31/2013  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
This would have been the original host coin.
KhusroII Shah of Persia 591-628AD

Om--The-Last-Sassanid-Bust!
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 Posted 09/01/2013  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list
two more cool ones I haven't seen! I can still make out the head but the fire altar is very abstract..neato.
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 Posted 09/01/2013  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
Nate, do you know if these coins circulated outside of India and Persia? During this period the Byzantine empire was the largest single empire in the same general region. I know that the two had fought with each other on several occasions.
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 Posted 09/01/2013  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
In the centuries leading up to the fall of Persia, Persian coins were circulated as well as imitated all over Asia. By the time the OP post coins were circulating the Huna were nothing more than a drop in the vast sea of time. The Huns that had been separated from the other tribes, had long mingled with the many migratory peoples that's inhabited India at that time. Persian coins circulated as far as China, but the style did not take hold there, as it did in India. The subsequent invasions of Muslims and their various dynasties shaped the Iranian speaking peoples up until the present day. Nothing remains of the source cultures, or original homelands. I urge you to check your drop box, there is a great dissertation on the subject. Probably the best I have ever read. I must also credit it for feeding the beast.

If anyone is interested and has a drop box account feel free to PM me.
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 Posted 09/01/2013  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
Thanks, looks like an interesting read.
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 Posted 09/01/2013  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list
Interesting catch Anob! You have become quite the expert on Indian coins
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 Posted 09/01/2013  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
Hardly...but thanks VK.
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Well, you'd be the first person on here that Id ask if I needed help with an Indian coin
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