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 Posted 02/20/2014  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list
P.S. Kev, I checked out by "advanced search" for "it2014.valer" and they joined ebay the same day they bought your coin. But they have bought four items (coins?) from an Italian seller who left them Feedback (positive, of course) on the 7th. Not a wise move as "it2014.valer" has not left them Feedback.

I had a "first timer" from Italy, Salerno, buy a coin on Sunday, again I went through the rigmarole of sorting out their address, it was to be sent to his place of work.

I also checked them out on Facebook (useful to find out if they portray themselves as "jokers" or look genuine) and he seemed to be into metal detecting judging from his profile pics.

I await him getting "or not" the package.

I do get a disproportionate amount of buyers from Italy, more than I have sold to the U.S.A., Canada and the rest of the Americas put together.

It may be due to the listing title or even ebay may be pushing certain sellers onto their various foreign ebay sites?

I aint complaining, I've had more problems posting to the U.S.A., Canada and Mexico than to Italy, despite always providing a "Customs Declaration Form", I guess that really translates into a "Contents Declaration Form, Feel Free To Steal".

And related to the buyers address...

I have never "purchased address labels" to print on ebay, for the said reasons that the buyers rarely ever give the correct address, so I write it all out instead.
Edited by Masis
02/20/2014 6:56 pm
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 Posted 02/20/2014  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
That is interesting.. the seller is stamps and coins as well (how surprising).
I don't know what the answer is to help here, apart from your original incentive to name and shame the buyers that intend to rip off genuine sellers.
The ebay boffins seem uninterested and so do certain authorities, so the best thing to keep the people of CCF safe is to list the buyers that deserve to be blocked.
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 Posted 02/20/2014  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xodus to your friends list
bump.
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 Posted 02/23/2014  08:31 am  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
Here is another one, left me neutral feedback today as I wouldn't sell them coins very cheaply. Unfair but there is nothing the seller can do, unfortunately. They claim the coin has no detail, I actually sent this person a coin that was going to be listed for 7.25 GBP as I just knew they would complain. Can't win them all I suppose.

ejoh5974


Also had an offer on a coin from a buyer in France, wants me to post a £225 coin to him without the tracking.... mmmmmm
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 Posted 02/23/2014  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list
Kev, Bottom Feeders like "ejoh5974" are often the ones to scam or leave Neutral/Negative Feedback.

Case in point:

26/2/2013: "ashtongrimes" won the auction of an "AE Antoninianus, Gallienus, Unofficial Issue, Abundantia" for £1.04.

He only payed after an Unpaid Item Case was opened.
After 2 days from posting it, he wanted a refund as he claimed he "had it checked by an expert who says it is fake". I explained that it was an "Unofficial Issue" hence the quality and asked for the name of the expert and also informed him on ebay's policy on Feedback Extortion. He was entitled to a full refund on returning the coin in its as sent condition.
He never replied.

In comparison, Buyers of pricey coins (£40+) tend to be the easiest to deal with.

On the subject of pricey coins, do not post that £225 coin to France without a tracking number.
They can fork out the £225 but not the £9 for a fully tracked service? BS alert.
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 Posted 02/25/2014  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list
4r2o has still not replied, 6 days after contacting me that he had not received the coin.
AFTER I LEFT HIM FEEDBACK.

Surely a humble Royal Mail Certificate of Postage is not the reason for such silence?

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 Posted 02/27/2014  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list
Et voilà:

"hello,
i have a good news, I've received my coin today-
I'm very happy because I prefer have my coin than monney, I've bought this coin for my collection-
the fould was the french post who missed the letter in a box ,i ask to my postman if he founds a letter from England and today he tells me he has found my letter -
best regard : 4r2o ( i'll put a good feedback)
"

So, the coin was almost delivered except the postman "missed the letter" and would not have delivered it unless the Buyer asked him.

Viva La Poste.
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 Posted 03/01/2014  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
kirkpatrick9192012

ebay user. I would recommend adding him to your blocked list.
seems to want 4000 late roman coins for 2.75 GBP.
Its not often words fail me, but on this occasion....
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 Posted 03/01/2014  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list
Yes, the Cheapskates are the most likely to forment a non existant problem just to be able to leave Negative Feedback to cover up the fact they were in error.

Your listing clearly states "Quantity" and so if someone is lucky to have a functioning brain, eyes and hand coordination then they can type what amount, from what remains, to buy. £2.75 is per coin.

Do you know what this person's main account is?
This may have been deliberate by some other seller.
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 Posted 03/02/2014  06:35 am  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
Unfortunately I don't know that yet. However, being a business seller with a shop allows access to what they call top customer care. 5 minutes on the phone this morning and all is straightened out, the negative removed, a warning sent to the buyer and I have him blocked every which way.
Is there a way we can get the bad buyers listed in one place?
I can stick an extra page on the end of a website if that would help.
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 Posted 03/02/2014  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list
I think at the moment, posting the really odd, dodgy Buyers messages and their ID's will "suffice".
Maybe at the end of the year we can assess.
At least we can add the scammers to our Blocked list.

Wonder if I will get any more "Donnas" and their Shopaholic children?
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 Posted 03/03/2014  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list
Example of Buyer giving incorrect address:

Had a sale a few minutes ago.

The buyer has given his address as:

"Stanndardwell Lane Horbury West Yorkshire wf4 6BL"

A search on Google Map, and just to double check, Google Search only brings up:

"Stannard Well Lane, Horbury, Wakefield, West Yorkshire, WF4 6BL"

And then they complain that they did not get the package.


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 Posted 03/10/2014  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
Another one on my blocked list

c-one85

offers less than half the asking price on a 250 GBP coin, low feedback (9) and leaves no feedback, unless its a complaint.
He wont be buying from me any time soon. Warning flag came straight up.
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 Posted 03/11/2014  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list
Kev, wierdly "c-one85" only left Feedback for the notorious fake ancient coin seller, "Saxbys-Coins".
"Overall good experience" ~ 23-Jan-14 14:28

Either we can think he bought a fake ancient coin and has been duped.
Or we can think "c-one85" is a Shill account used by "Saxbys-Coins".

I checked out what "Saxbys-Coins" (Benjamin Stocks) buys and they had bought a number of "Roman style" items from Bulgaria from the seller "axelina3".

"Saxbys-Coins" had also bought from a fellow notorious fake ancient coin seller "coin-ancient-world", that business had been in the name of "Vesela Vlahova", a Bulgarian, but has recently been changed to "Nick Fisher".

Using the same account to make purchases and inflating the Feedback number so that Buyers who base "quality" from a high Feedback seller will seek him out, is not an issue in this case.

The issue is a notorious fake ancient coin seller buying from another notorious fake ancient coin seller and "c-one85" only leaving Feedback for the notorious fake ancient coin seller, "Saxbys-Coins".
Edited by Masis
03/11/2014 1:05 pm
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 Posted 03/11/2014  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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