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1897 Barber Quarter, New Purchase

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 Posted 09/14/2013  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UNCdetails to your friends list
wow thats tough I think I see some original surfaces but I can't tell if its entirely original
beautiful coin
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 Posted 09/15/2013  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add supgog to your friends list
Great coin ! I think it makes easy 64, and more than likely MS65.
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 Posted 09/15/2013  01:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Wow. You might have just made yourself a score there; starting at MS64-ish, Business Strikes are outnumbered by Proofs - it's a real Condition Rarity in upper Mint State grades and worth more than an equivalent Proof in 65 and above.

It's a bit overlit for a truly reliable opinion but I like your chances at 64. That makes it a >$400 coin - tough to call value when Heritage (for instance) has only offered 5-MS64's in the last 5 years.

Looks like the guy who punched the date should have stayed sober that day.

Check the 1, 9 and 7 for repunching, particularly the bottom knob of the 9; this numeral orientation matches that of the only attributed RPD I saw in my research, an ANACS 64 that hammered at nearly double the grade value....
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 Posted 09/15/2013  05:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add flippy to your friends list
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 Posted 09/15/2013  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
MS65. the surfaces are little but troublesome to me. although very nice, the coin may have had light dip. I'm not an expert on this so maybe someone else can weigh in. I dont think it will affect its value. awesome strike...gorgeous!
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 Posted 09/15/2013  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list
The coin looks like it may be least MS-64 maybe MS-65. While this may be a result of how it was photographed, the obverse looks so dull and lackluster in the seller's pics. If it actually looks like that in hand, I think it would receive a details grade. If the luster is more like the reverse, then you may have gotten quite a bargain.
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 Posted 09/15/2013  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imthealphaomega to your friends list
I'd say at least MS64 I barely see anything that draws your eye away from it....it is a very nice coin.
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 Posted 09/15/2013  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
MS-65.
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 Posted 09/15/2013  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list
The obverse looks way off. No better than a 63, probably details. The images caught cartwheel on the reverse, why not the obverse? Huge red flag.
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 Posted 09/15/2013  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadowtrooper78 to your friends list
@FadetoBlack I took that in to consideration if you look at the area around the coin it appears that both sides were shot in different lighting...the area surround the obverse is darker. We'll see when I get it in hand, will post updated pictures. I have a feeling I will keep it regardless....I have AU 50 money in it....actually less than that and I absolutely love the strike.
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 Posted 09/15/2013  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list
The shadows are in the same spots (Meaning the dual lights were placed in the same locations, or probably not moved between shots) which means you should see bands of cartwheel in the same spots. The obverse is probably going to be details at best. Also, if you notice the light being brightly reflected in front of the face? Anytime I've seen that, it has indicated either overexposure of light (which doesn't seem the case here) or a cleaning.

Hope I'm wrong, good luck!

EDIT: One other thing... given the clarity, size, and technique used to shoot the coin, this isn't an amateur, this is somebody who knows what they're doing. I doubt your images will provide any more detail than these unless you go outside with the coin and record some cartwheel.
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09/15/2013 7:23 pm
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 Posted 09/15/2013  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadowtrooper78 to your friends list
@ FTB. I'm cautiously optimistic on this one. Mainly for the reasons you listed. I don't mind throwing a little money out there at a chance I'm getting something much better. We'll see, the way I look at it is I either got a steal of a deal or payed close to FMV on this one (if it's a details coin).
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 Posted 09/20/2013  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john1942sept to your friends list
Very nice - was it bought off Heritage?
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 Posted 09/20/2013  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadowtrooper78 to your friends list
Off ebay....I'm hoping to get it in the mail today....fingers crossed....shipping hasn't been updated since the 17th....gotta love the usps
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 Posted 09/20/2013  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadowtrooper78 to your friends list
Here she is in hand.....MS details obverse improperly cleaned? Debating if I should keep this or send it back. I'm not in it that deep....$92....thoughts?
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