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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I have my doubts about it. Medieval silver pennies should not bend like that. Not happy with the edge thickness, either.
I have a feeling that is is not silver, perhaps silver washed.
Find someone with an XRF analyzer to confirm. Low accuracy +- 1% should be quick and easy. I have had coins tested by a bullion dealer with XRF, at a coin show for free!
I would LOVE to be proven wrong!
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Valued Member
 United Kingdom
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if only that were true they come up often bent and folded
it has a flange of thin silver from the striking which makes it look thick
i am sure it is a full silver coin and I am taking it to get authenticated so I will let you know what happens
cheers tinner
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Nice find, doesn't look right to me either. Just looks a bit on the thick side with a lead look to it. Rally token?
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
160 Posts |
this coin has been to Spink in london and confirmed as described William 11 penny
The moneyer is IELDRED of the Southwark mint in London..
thanks for looking
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Thats interesting, any chance you could post a picture of whats hidden under the bend please?
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Sweet and with care can be straightened. Thanks for posting!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
602 Posts |
If you can't straighten it all the way, at least try to unbend it a little bit. Don't use too much force at once, but SLOWLY try to straighten it out.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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If you are going to straighten it, start off by trying to bend it with your fingers. It needs some straightening out, before using a vise. Otherwise, localized stressing may result. Bend it in small steps, with frequent examination.
When using a vise, put the coin between two pieces of stiff plastic up to 2mm thick each. Tighten the vise VERY slowly, in steps. Carefully examine the coin between each small step.
Using the stiff plastic is probably the best way to avoid scratching. Don't use hard plastic.
NOTE! If this coin is the real McCoy, and it is around a thousand years old, it may have internal silver crystallization and could be brittle! That is why careful examination after very small bending steps is essential.
Edited by sel_69l
09/23/2013 10:46 pm
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Moderator
 Australia
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Yes, sel, mediaeval silver pennies are often found bent. They did bend quite easily when they were mint-new; as you noted, silver crystallizes and becomes brittle with age and un-bending it now is much more likely to snap it than if it had been un-bent back before it was lost.
Apparently, it was common practise back then to carry coins around securely by bending them around a piece of string. If you wanted to spend one of the coins, you simply gave it a good tug and it popped right off. Of course, a coin getting accidentally tugged off its string could happen all to easily - which is why so many pennies are found bent.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Hi finder, would it be possible to have a picture of whats under the bend? Also, I know its a bind, but who was it that gave you an authentic id on this? I only ask as I own a fair amount of stuff from this period and this my friend is, to my eyes, an 'obvious'? copy.
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
Edited by MetDet71
10/05/2013 04:55 am
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
160 Posts |
spink in london get your eyes tested
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3253 Posts |
Do you ever document your finds with the Portable Antiquities Scheme?
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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It's a forum mr finder, I gave my opinion so don't be so rude.
IF it's genuine then it's a nice find. I still would like to see under the bend......
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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yes I do record my finds philadelphian
metdet it is genuine no if about it and its not me who is rude as it was already stated in the thread where I had it looked at
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Actually finder, telling me to get my eyes tested was and is rude, extremely so. I refine my question :- who at spink looked at your coin?
I joined this forum quite a while back now and the idea is for people like you, that obviously knows genuine from trash, to educate people like me, that has a good idea but lacks knowledge and welcomes help. Now we have cleared up who is rude, I took a look at your youtube vids again and you got some good finds! My reasons for thinking this coin was 'wrong' are that it looks too thick, the tone looks too dark, the bend looks manufactured and it basically looks like an item that a certain company produces.
I would very much welcome you educating me as to why I am wrong instead of just telling me to get my eyes tested. I am here to learn and help if I can.
Oh and off topic, didn't you crap your pants getting close to the barb on that ray you caught?
Regards,
Met.
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
Edited by MetDet71
10/05/2013 8:36 pm
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