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1838 Capped Bust Quarter. NGC. Let's Talk About It.

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 Posted 10/22/2013  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list
Joe2007, no apology needed. It may have seemed I was offended or annoyed on my earlier post. I was not. Sorry you thought I was. Demeanor doesn't always come through with the written word. I enjoy all comments and conversation as long as it's about coins, and I appreciate your comment as well, even if to disagree. : ). You are right about some dark coins being too dark from env. damage or artificial toning. Use this coin as a good reference for what an original piece looks like. Can anyone post a good example of AT and env. damaged coins to help show what the differences are? I don't have any right now.
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 Posted 10/23/2013  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list
Well, from the feedback consistently in the VF-30 range, maybe I shouldn't agree with the grade. A little under graded I guess. I'll probably bust her out and put her in a book to play with all her friends anyway.

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 Posted 10/23/2013  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CGCoins to your friends list
Wow, that seems pretty undergraded. That looks like atleast a vf-30 to me.
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 Posted 10/23/2013  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list
worth a PCGS resubmission request for a VF30 and you'd probably get it.

awesome quarter nonetheless and if you crack it and resell it raw one day, you'll probably get VF30 money for it. I hope she enjoys her play-date with her friends in the years to come.
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 Posted 10/23/2013  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Definately undergraded and worth a resubmit.
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 Posted 10/23/2013  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
NGC flat-out missed that one. Should be a 30 and is a candidate for review. It's not one where you should pay for re-grade, call NGC and explain that you feel an error has been made.
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 Posted 10/23/2013  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yhbearcats to your friends list
My initial thought was also a VF 30 before seeing anyone else's posts and the grade of 20. Seems ungraded to me as well, like others have said I would crack it out and resubmit to PCGS
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 Posted 10/24/2013  01:38 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
Just for entertainment purposes, I have placed a PCGS VF30 example from CoinFacts below the OP's NGC VF20 in the image below. The NGC grade might be a clerical error in labeling?

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 Posted 10/24/2013  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list
Well, your VF-20 example from PCGS looks better than the VF-20 example off of the PCGS grading app. Comparing mine to these pics, it looks better than the VF-30. Check out this pic off of the grading app. The picture file is small though.

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 Posted 10/24/2013  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
jpbone: The example I posted is a VF30 piece from CoinFacts.
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 Posted 10/24/2013  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list
BH1964: My bad. I see that now!
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 Posted 10/24/2013  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list
JP, BH has a great suggestion: you should call NGC and take a shot.
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 Posted 10/24/2013  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Phew. Merciless. I'd have to seriously consider keeping it on the original slab if I were thinking to liquidate. Throw it on ebay with high-quality pics and a mention in the copy how unfair you think the original grade is, and I suspect you'd get closer to VF35 money than VF20 from people getting upgrade fever.
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 Posted 10/24/2013  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list
All good advice guys. To be honest, and I've said several times before, I'm a hoarder. I'll keep it and not invest the time or money on a resubmit/crack out just because I really don't care for slabs unless I'm buying off ebay and need some reassurance the coin is problem free and legit. I paid $160 for it. Not a bargain, but I really liked it so I pulled the trigger.
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 Posted 10/25/2013  12:14 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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I paid $160 for it. Not a bargain, but I really liked it so I pulled the trigger.


You got a good deal. A bargain in my mind. This NGC VF30 piece brought $224 + shipping last spring on Heritage. Yours is better and worth $250 retail. JMHO.

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