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Vermont Copper - 1787 With Bust Facing Right

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 Posted 11/05/2013  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LowLife to your friends list
beautiful coin....I haven't ventured into Colonials yet...but I'll get there! :)
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 Posted 11/05/2013  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list
Absolutely beautiful! Love these Machins Mills types.
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 Posted 11/05/2013  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list
and Thank you for sharing
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 Posted 11/05/2013  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
Welcome to the CCF ... You have a good eye for quality, Germanicvs.
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 Posted 11/05/2013  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
First ... to the CCF ...

Hopeful GERMANICVS that you pull up a stool and enjoy the sharing that goes on here in this best of all coin forums.

I would be remiss in my welcome if I failed to mention that vermontensium is an acknowledged CCF expert on these issues ... as a newcomer to this forum you do not have the benefit of 'knowing' the folks replying ...

Trust that any reply from vermontensium should be construed as a true expert opinion.

Hopeful that you shall soon hear from our other expert on this series ...

Tremendous coin ... Thanks for sharing.

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 Posted 11/06/2013  01:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list
I'm forced to admit it's only pure jealousy that's kept me from responding sooner. That coin is a beauty.
If you admire early US coins, I hope you're aware of the many German-Americans who were vital to their creation, particularly John Reich, Adam Eckfeldt, and Henry Voigt. Still not sure about Abel Buell (of the Fugio coppers), as that is also an English surname.
Looking forward to what else you have to share!
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 Posted 11/06/2013  01:47 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Abel Buell was born in 1742 in Killingworth,Ct.
His parents more than likely immigrated from either Ireland or England.

David, thank you for the kind words but there are a few here versed in the Colonial era and it's coinage..just like the guy above me
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 Posted 11/06/2013  03:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list
I have to admit, I joined this forum because I saw there are some truly knowledgeable people here (including in the World Coin Forum), and Vermontensium is one of them.
I have here a coin which is very appropriate for him. Landscape variety with Vermontensium, RR-8.

I have visited some of the historic sites in the US Northeast, specially in Massachusetts. Walking down some of the streets of Plymouth, Salem and Concord one still gets a sense of what it must have been like when the country was just being formed. I appreciate that history, and that is why I collect US coins.


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 Posted 11/06/2013  04:16 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I'm impressed!
What another beautiful, problem free coin.
Ryder 8 denoted by the recut 1 and 9 trees. So many of the Vermont coppers struck at the Rupert mint were on inferior planchets, plagued with flaws and issues.
This is an exception. Nice above average flan, well centered, and nicely struck.

If you ever get back to the East coast, you have to go to Rupert.
It humbled me. I searched for the Minthouse along Millbrook stream and found a colonial erastone foundation that was indicative of accounts I have studied as to where the Mint possibly stood.
I'm going back someday to try to find any kind of definitive proof.
I did manage to bring back a few Colonial era artifacts from the era including horse bits and square nails..possibly from the Mint house!
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 Posted 11/06/2013  05:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coindog to your friends list
Very nice colonials. The light brown color is extraordinary especially on your Vermont. Its not to often I see coppers that have such even coloration. I cant imagine those were easy to come by in Germany. I can wait to see what else you have to share.
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 Posted 11/06/2013  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list
Thanks for sharing another beautiful Colonial. As you can see from my avatar, I also enjoy the colonial coins but only have a few in my collection.

We are so fortunate to have experts like vermontensium, philadelphian, and others so willing to share their knowledge with newbies like myself. I hope you decide to stay on and be a part of the community.
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Than you all for the welcomes, all of you.

Vermontensium, 2 years ago it was firmly in my plans to visit Vermont
and the mint in Rupert. Unfortunately, with a family to tag along, it did not happen. Maybe one day.

I do understand your excitement at finding remnants of that past, be it a nail, button, or whatever artifact used or worn by people back then. They are all a link to the past.
I remember I felt that way when I found some buttons, possibly worn by troops of Napoleons army as they fought their way back to France after their defeat in Russia.

I am attaching some pictures of a few other colonials in my collection. An Elephant Token (with thick planchet), and a Rhode Island token/medal.

Neither of these pieces ever demonstrably circulated in America - but they are interesting nonetheless. The Rhode Island piece is low grade, but shows enough detail. I will not repeat the history of this token, as most collectors have heard about it, but I find it specially interesting due to its connection to the revolutionary wars.



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Than you all for the welcomes, all of you.

Vermontensium, 2 years ago it was firmly in my plans to visit Vermont
and the mint in Rupert. Unfortunately, with a family to tag along, it did not happen. Maybe one day.

I do understand your excitement at finding remnants of that past, be it a nail, button, or whatever artifact used or worn by people back then. They are all a link to the past.
I remember I felt that way when I found some buttons, possibly worn by troops of Napoleons army as they fought their way back to France after their defeat in Russia.

I am attaching some pictures of a few other colonials in my collection. An Elephant Token (with thick planchet), and a Rhode Island token/medal.

Neither of these pieces ever demonstrably circulated in America - but they are interesting nonetheless. The Rhode Island piece is low grade, but shows enough detail. I will not repeat the history of this token, as most collectors have heard about it, but I find it specially interesting due to its connection to the revolutionary wars.



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 Posted 11/06/2013  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list
Wow ...you need to start a separate thread for these! Love the Elephant Hodder 2B? Your collection is amzing....it humbles me. Enlighten me on the Rhode Island...I was under the impression all dated 1779 should have "vlugtende" under the ship? Yours seems to be an unusual variety...restrike?
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 Posted 11/06/2013  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list
There are varieties of Rhode Island Ship Tokens with a wreath ornament in place of the word VLUGTENDE.
This is quite a collection!
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