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Brockage/Die Clash, But A Little Confused?

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 Posted 11/17/2013  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list
Maybe I should be clearer on this.. I did not say they come out of the ground in that condition. They generally come out of the ground (when found in a hoard) thickly encrusted in green copper oxide deposits; as a result of them being next to other coins. Whereas a ploughsoil found coin will leach copper oxides into the surrounding soil, a hoard coin leaches these oxides onto surrounding coins/the pot. Some hoard coins do come out of the ground in a fantastic condition, it all depends on whether the pot was covered with a lid and how dry the soil was. A sympathetic cleaning method will remove this encrustation to reveal in most cases a very fine Roman coin.
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 Posted 11/17/2013  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
I am aware of this, but thank you for the advice.
Could you tell me the details of the coin you posted.
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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11/17/2013 8:50 pm
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 Posted 11/17/2013  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list

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as I adore your prospective and I employ your enthusiasm that coins come out of the earth in that condition, I Assure you they do not.


Are we at cross-purposes here? The discussion in this thread is not about the authenticity of this coin, but rather the unusual reverse brockage restrike. The coin was obtained from a legitimate and respected dealer in coins and antiquities, but this will not help us to uncover the truth about the ghosting and subsequent restrike of the coin?.
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 Posted 11/17/2013  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list

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its from a large uncleaned group (hoard material) found back in the 50's


That statement is huge and a very important part of history, as a collector or historian. The coin you have posted is in my opinion a modern copy - a discussion I have had before here. As not to stray away from your original post, what is the size and weight of your coin? It would also help if you could provide a clue as to provider of this coin, after all, if its a genuine item and the seller is as good as you say then it will do no harm. I do have a few things to say about your hoard find also but it would be a little uncouth of me to do so here so I will PM you instead with a little information that I have.
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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 Posted 11/17/2013  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list
Please feel free to post your comments here, there is nothing to hide....

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 Posted 11/17/2013  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
I will send you a PM regarding the hoard.
Now regarding your OP, can you give other details on it?
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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 Posted 11/17/2013  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
You lost me right after "I get it now" .......

Nice coin though
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 Posted 11/17/2013  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
I haven't been able to find a match in the fake coin report. It does look legit to me. Also it appears to be from the Lyons mint.
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 Posted 11/17/2013  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list
I would rather you post your 'uncouth' comments here....I cannot receive PM's yet.
As far as the source of the coin, I feel no need to disclose to anyone where I buy my material. The dealer is respected and if you believe the authentic coin posted here is a fake, then I do not believe its fair to name him either as both he and I, and I would assume most members here can see it is genuine. If you firmly believe the coin is not authentic, then maybe speak to a moderator and ask that it be removed because it is misleading? Other than that...I do not know how to help. If it helps you to understand how people manage to buy hoard material, both myself and another member here have bought coins from a Gallic hoard in the past year...they are not difficult to find and when resold are often not sold as being from 'such and such hoard'.
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 Posted 11/17/2013  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
Just been having a good look at a few of my copies that a guy I know makes and actually I agree echizento, it could be a good coin, the reverse throws me a little bit as does the OP.
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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 Posted 11/17/2013  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
Yeoldecoins, ok I will post, but first I have to post these comments.
Firstly, It has been great to meet the genuine collectors and dealers on this forum, been an inspiration to me.
Secondly, I support this forum and will continue to do so but will no longer be 'active'. as the saying goes, if there are sharks around get out of the water.
Thirdly, A big thank you to everyone for making me welcome, been a pleasure.


I must apologies to others reading this, have fun with your coins, hope you all get your bargains! Best wishes, Met.

You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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 Posted 11/18/2013  06:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list
Maybe we will never know the exact reason this coin ended up like this, still....an interesting little piece of bronze. If anyone bumps into a brockage expert please let me know.
Oh and your expert opinions on ancient coins will be sadly missed Big Kev...
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11/18/2013 5:01 pm
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 Posted 11/18/2013  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
Metdet...sad to see you go... Make sure yuo post some of your finds occasionally...and dont let me miss you selling anything! (Cant believe I havent bartered a single coin off you yet!)
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 Posted 11/18/2013  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list
Ben check PM
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 Posted 11/18/2013  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list
Funny you should mention the Salonina brockage restrike Ben, Heres one of mine...

Brockage/Die-Clash,-But-A-Little-Confused?

Brockage/Die-Clash,-But-A-Little-Confused?
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