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Buying Then Selling On Ebay

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 Posted 12/16/2013  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bassmaster to your friends list
Yeah, I am trying to learn as much as possible. I also live in a small town and it is hard to find a lot of items. I don't sell unless I can make $10 off of it. I think doing a really broad search like typing in "antique" and checking on sold prices like that.
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 Posted 12/16/2013  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tpg22 to your friends list
How much is figured for taxes on the gain of items sold? I always see people show the 13% for eBay/Paypal but what about the income taxes owed for selling coins at a profit? Doesn't that eat into profit?
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 Posted 12/17/2013  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list
Taxes can be a confusing topic. I sell enough to be able to treat it like a business. That means I file a schedule C with my taxes. Lots of people try to fly under the radar but should be paying tax. Short term gains are taxed at whatever marginal rate you are in. Long term gains are taxed at capital gains rates, unless it's considered a collectible in which case it's taxed at a different(higher) rate. Gold, silver, coins, art, etc all fall under that rate.
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 Posted 12/17/2013  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tpg22 to your friends list
Thanks trdhrdr007. That is what I thought. I just never see people include the 30% tax cost into their profit margin. Between taxes and ebay you are looking at almost 50%. It takes some pretty good margins to make a living with that. I agree many fly under the radar. I believe the day is coming where ebay has to report sellers to the IRS and would be willing to bet sales tax in on the way as well.
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 Posted 12/17/2013  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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I believe the day is coming where ebay has to report sellers to the IRS and would be willing to bet sales tax in on the way as well.


I've been getting tax paperwork from ebay and Paypal for years. And Congress will be getting around to the sales tax issue whenever they start talking to each other again. Which is to say, we've got breathing room on that one.
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 Posted 12/17/2013  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bassmaster to your friends list
I understand the tax for the big sellers making over $1000 a month, but the people that are making a lowly $50 on ebay a month or so shouldn't have to pay it. If everything keeps rising in price, it will be just as cheap to go to a store and get the items.
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 Posted 12/18/2013  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list

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Thanks trdhrdr007. That is what I thought. I just never see people include the 30% tax cost into their profit margin. Between taxes and ebay you are looking at almost 50%. It takes some pretty good margins to make a living with that. I agree many fly under the radar. I believe the day is coming where ebay has to report sellers to the IRS and would be willing to bet sales tax in on the way as well.


Keep in mind you only pay tax on the profit. If you buy an item for $100 & sell for $150 with 13% eBay/paypal fees your profit is $30. You would only pay tax on the $30. In that example you are paying $19.50 fees + $9 tax(at 30% marginal rate) for a total of $28.50, or 19% of the sale. Also, you are allowed to deduct legitimate business expenses.

I'm not a CPA so take this with a grain of salt. Rules may have changed, but you used to be able to make up to $600/year outside of your regular job before you had to declare the income.
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12/18/2013 09:07 am
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 Posted 12/18/2013  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tpg22 to your friends list
Thanks again. I was looking more at the making a living side of it.
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 Posted 12/18/2013  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
To make a living on coins requires a total commitment.
That means traveling all around the country attending as many shows as possible.
It means establishing a clientele who SEEK YOU OUT when you are in town.
It means 'knowing your stuff.'
How this might be done on ebay I fail to see.
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 Posted 12/18/2013  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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Thanks again. I was looking more at the making a living side of it.


Id say if your inventory isn't in the 6 figures or higher range you likely arent making a living off it. Theres a reason why a lot of smaller shops do jewelery as well.

That can be done selling on ebay alone given enough time building up a reputation but youll still need to have a lot of money tied up in inventory and its certainly not easy. No one enjoys paying ebay fees, but compared to paying for a physical store the fees are rather low.

I would venture that anyone doing it mainly on ebay started small and over time built up their inventory moving to more expensive items that can be more profitable as they went along. Either that or they were a coin shop that decided it was better to lose the expense of a store.
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 Posted 01/11/2014  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fireman638 to your friends list
I don't make a living off it, but I do "flip" pennies. Before they were pulled from circulation here in Canada, I went to the bank and ordered $5000.00 face value. Me and my daughter sit most evenings and sort by year and variety. We pull out any that are AU, pull out the foreign coins, and create rolls by the year and variety which go on ebay. I don't make enough to pay the bills with it, but the profit is used to add to the collection.
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 Posted 01/11/2014  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bassmaster to your friends list
Did the bank have any problem with you getting $5000 in pennies? That is hilarious, however, you did a great job of setting yourself up.
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 Posted 01/11/2014  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fireman638 to your friends list
No problem at all, got them at our local credit union. They are used to strange requests from me. I've been a member there for 10 years or so, and a roll hunter for even longer. Now I'm known as the penny man to them. I honestly don't mind it, I'm the one winning that one lol. When I went in to place the order it had to go through the teller and two supervisors. It was really quite comical. The best part actually has nothing to do with the coins. The hours and hours I have spent sorting with my ten year old daughter has been absolutely amazing. You can't even imagine the conversations and bonding that has happened. Best part is, she is still just as anxious to sort them now as she was the day we started
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01/11/2014 6:39 pm
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 Posted 01/11/2014  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
Ebay/paypal will only issue a 1099 when you reach $20,000 AND 200 transactions. As trdhrdr007 mentioned, you'd only pay tax on net proceeds.

As far as making money buying then selling, I bet this person could. Cherrypick of the century:

http://cgi.ebay.com/380768583879
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 Posted 01/11/2014  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bassmaster to your friends list
Wow, that is ridiculous. I wish I could find good buy it nows like that, but they only come rarely. Fireman and that's hilarious about the supervisors and teller.
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