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I also believe that it's a die crack. Cool find!
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This Radial die Crack is on the verge of becoming a Die Break and is really close but it is pretty thin and most would not call it a break, but it would not be out of line to do so because of the chip/break forming on the crack in the hair, it also appears to have a bit of lamination extending from the crack, but it could just be the crack itself forming in a strange way. The die certainly did not last long after this coin was made.
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I guess to help with the lamination issue it would help to know the date of the coin to see if it is a zinc or a copper cent. I still think there is no lamination. IMO the photo was taken with the light source in the lower left part of the coin so the right side of the crack has a shadow giving the appearance of a lamination.
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Starting at the lower left dot to the upper one then to the lower right one. This looks like lamination or split plating.  |
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Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Thanks! Quote:
I also believe that it's a die crack. Cool find! Quote:
I guess to help with the lamination issue it would help to know the date of the coin to see if it is a zinc or a copper cent. I still think there is no lamination. IMO the photo was taken with the light source in the lower left part of the coin so the right side of the crack has a shadow giving the appearance of a lamination.
It's a 1993 zinc copper plated penny (Philadelphia issue) Sorry I forgot to include date and composition in original post.. Rookie error on my part.  |
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Thanks for the link 7TF.. I will make sure to go check it out.. Quote:
This Radial die Crack is on the verge of becoming a Die Break and is really close but it is pretty thin and most would not call it a break, but it would not be out of line to do so because of the chip/break forming on the crack in the hair, it also appears to have a bit of lamination extending from the crack, but it could just be the crack itself forming in a strange way. The die certainly did not last long after this coin was made. If its helpful to trying to correctly attribute this I can take more pics from different angles that anyone needs or with more magnification. just say the word. |
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See if the lamination area others are speaking of (the traingle area) is actually lifting from the coin like a lamination peel would do. If you can slip something under the area it is a lamination, if it is just a crack you won't be able to stick anything between it and the coin. Use a toothpick and be really careful not to damage your coin.
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Ok will do.. I will report back with the results after I get done.. Thanks for the help!! Quote:
See if the lamination area others are speaking of (the traingle area) is actually lifting from the coin like a lamination peel would do. If you can slip something under the area it is a lamination, if it is just a crack you won't be able to stick anything between it and the coin. Use a toothpick and be really careful not to damage your coin. |
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Well after careful examination with a small piece of paper and a pair of tweezers under a high magnification microscope it is the conclusion that I am able to slide just alittle bit of the corner of paper underneath the triangular part on the forehead therefore confirming atleast that area as a lamination.. still not sure about the die crack or maybe that's part of the lamination that just hasn't separated yet... anyway thanks to everyone and thank you 7TF for the explanation on what to do.. much appreciated.  Quote:
See if the lamination area others are speaking of (the traingle area) is actually lifting from the coin like a lamination peel would do. If you can slip something under the area it is a lamination, if it is just a crack you won't be able to stick anything between it and the coin. Use a toothpick and be really careful not to damage your coin. Edited by chettieyy
01/31/2014 11:14 am
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I would just put it in a flip and mark it a radial die crack w/ possible break or lamination until you can decide for sure, it really won't affect the value as these die cracks are pretty common but when they form a break they get more attention from collectors. I think it is more likely just a different form of die crack/break rather than a lamination. It can be tricky trying to nail down exactly what an error/variety is sometimes. This is one of the coolest Morgan die Breaks in my opinion http://www.vamworld.com/1888-O+VAM-1B I have never owned one, but from the pictures it looks like the die crack is not actually raised on the face but is more like the die shifted slightly. This is why I wonder if your coin is not actually just a different form of a die crack extending from the break in the hair. What you see in the fields above the head is definitely a die crack. |
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Thanks 7TF for taking the time you have to try and pin down exactly what is going on with this Memorial cent.. Definetly a tricky one for sure.. I will just throw it in a flip and label it like you said and put it away for 50 years and maybe it will be worth a nickel  .. In all seriousness though I know what ya mean the more I read about attributing varieties and how just the slightest difference or absence of a marker can quickly make things more complicated.. As for said piece it's still a cool piece and will just go in the error/variety folder for now. Thanks for the link..That morgan has to be the coolest die break I have ever seen to date myself..Interesting read as well.. Thanks for posting the link..appreciate it.. The more info I can obtain about this type of stuff the better as the more I can learn. Quote:I would just put it in a flip and mark it a radial die crack w/ possible break or lamination until you can decide for sure, it really won't affect the value as these die cracks are pretty common but when they form a break they get more attention from collectors. I think it is more likely just a different form of die crack/break rather than a lamination. It can be tricky trying to nail down exactly what an error/variety is sometimes. This is one of the coolest Morgan die Breaks in my opinion http://www.vamworld.com/1888-O+VAM-1B I have never owned one, but from the pictures it looks like the die crack is not actually raised on the face but is more like the die shifted slightly. This is why I wonder if your coin is not actually just a different form of a die crack extending from the break in the hair. What you see in the fields above the head is definitely a die crack. Edited by chettieyy
02/05/2014 12:51 pm
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That's a great one 7TF, if you can afford it.
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