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Starting To Collect Junk Silver- What's A Good Face Price?

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 Posted 02/20/2014  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ASLAN TVorlon to your friends list
15 to 22 times face is what the last thread on this topic said. I'm in the middle at 20 times on most change but 22 times on Morgan's and that is un-graded from the cull bin.

I came up with a few ugly Morgan's last month but I figure I can always use them for up-grades later.


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You'll pay more for silver dollars as they weight much more than lets say two halves so its different


The Proportion of silver is constant for Dime, Quarter and Half. According to Krause 1 half dollar is 0.3617 troy ounces *2= 0.7234 one Morgan is 0.7734 troy ounces that is a difference of .05 troy ounces. If my math is right that works out to 1.555 grams, or 24 grains.

1 Troy ounce = 31.1 Grams = 480 Grains

The silver dollars are just older like the Barbers, that is why the extra gouge on higher premiums.
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 Posted 02/20/2014  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
Just take the spot price and multiply by 0.715. If spot is $20.00 then it's 14.3X face and so on.

This is assuming you're buying/selling 90% junk silver. Of course there has to be a profit margin for shop owners so they might pay a bit less and charge a bit more when selling.
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Just take the spot price and multiply by 0.715. If spot is $20.00 then it's 14.3X face and so on


That is true for dimes. There are other calculations for each respective coin.

To determine the silver (melt) value of a circulated dime, multiply the current spot price of silver times .0715. For example: $20.00 x .0715 = $1.43

To determine the silver (melt) value of a circulated half-dollar, multiply .3575 times the current spot price of silver. Example: .3575 x $20.00 = $7.15.

To determine the silver (melt) value of a circulated quarter, multiply the current spot price of silver times .1788. Example: .1788 x $20.00 = $3.576.
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 Posted 02/20/2014  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fat Freddy to your friends list
My LCS doesn't really barter or negotiate their offering price when the prospective transaction is just selling some 90% junk silver. If you had something to
barter that they really wanted, they might flex somewhat, but that's not very likely. That being said, I think the multiples of FV mentioned above are realistic.
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 Posted 02/20/2014  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ASLAN TVorlon to your friends list
According to Krause...

Dime .0723
Quarter .1808
Half .3617

I'm not saying Krause is right, they seldom are but where are you getting your numbers from tripncoins?
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 Posted 02/20/2014  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripncoins to your friends list
That's interesting, I was reviewing it on a website called -

http://www.silverinvestingsimplifie...uryDime.html
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Ohhhh, they are taking into account the "wear factor", they did mention Mercury dimes are 90% silver and 10% copper. Uncirculated coins contain .0723 Troy ounces of pure silver.

So this is their estimate of what has been lost over the past few decades. I'm sure my LCS would only use those numbers when they were buying, and the Uncirculated numbers when selling.
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22X is good. 10X is better. And everything in between.
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The 0.715 multiplier works for all 90% junk U.S. silver which includes dimes, quarters and halves. It is used universally in the U.S. and does allow for a slight amount of wear.

Spot price times 0.715 will provide you with the current face value multiplier.
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 Posted 02/21/2014  08:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rgathright to your friends list

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My specialty is centered more around limited run, uncirculated world silver than US pre-64 silver.


For 2013, I focused on Peru junk silver because it is:
1) Cheaper per oz than US junk silver
2) Less competitive in ebay auctions compared to US currency
3) Has silver content minted on coins

I got so tired of hearing people tell me that worn down morgans were worth high premiums that I let them keep their overpriced junk and now enjoy my world silver.

Just my .02!
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Yeah I have seen it for 12-18 times face on a normal basis around my area. Decent price. I have found a few dealers trying to sell for 20-30 times face at shows and pawn shops. I guess they find some suckers to buy at that price. I would try to stay around the mid teens times face value
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 Posted 02/21/2014  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Domain555 to your friends list
rgarthright..


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For 2013, I focused on Peru junk silver because it is:
1) Cheaper per oz than US junk silver
2) Less competitive in ebay auctions compared to US currency
3) Has silver content minted on coins


Thanks for the heads up.

I have "family" in - from Peru.
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I am open to buy junk Peace at $21-22 & Morgans at $23-24

I am open to buy junk US .90 coins at 15 X face
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The 0.715 multiplier works for all 90% junk U.S. silver which includes dimes, quarters and halves. It is used universally in the U.S. and does allow for a slight amount of wear.

Spot price times 0.715 will provide you with the current face value multiplier



Interesting. I didn't know that. Thanks
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Spot price times 0.715 will provide you with the current face value multiplier


I wish my LCS knew that
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