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Ih Real Or Fake?

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 Posted 03/17/2014  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
I think you did the guy a disservice personally.
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 Posted 03/17/2014  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
If you cannot even name the correct type of coin, I think it is rather irresponsible to be calling it a fake. This is a cupronickel 1864 with a rounded bust as stated in the auction, the 1864L is a bronze coin with a pointed bust. The rim looks "wrong" because it is a Very Late Die State coin with die crumbling that affects the rim- it is essentially a series of small Cuds.
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 Posted 03/17/2014  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AES to your friends list

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I am a relative newbie but this 1864 L on ebay does not look right to me. The surface, date and lower rim look wrong compared to other photo's of this year.


It's listed as a '64 copper-nickel, not the bronze L. It does look incredibly clean...
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 Posted 03/17/2014  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list
It is a shocking orange but fake? Not sure why? Maybe I'm missing something.
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 Posted 03/17/2014  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add beaglebailey to your friends list
I don't see anything on this coin that points to it being a counterfeit. You claim it is a fake but provide no supporting data to back up your claim. I think you need to be 100% sure before accusing anyone of selling a fake.
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 Posted 03/17/2014  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yooper to your friends list
My mistake. This was not advertised as an L. I happened upon it when I was searching for 1864 L. It appeared in the listing. I have edited my original message.

I may have been too hasty in accepting the first replies and assuming this to be a fake. I hope that some of the other members with expertise in Indian Heads will render their opinions. I would like to know that if this is a real uncirculated coin, what caused the pitted surface on the nose and cheek, the extra metal on and around the date, and the extra metal on the rim?

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 Posted 03/17/2014  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list

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what caused the pitted surface


Die flow, VLDS



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the extra metal on and around the date


No such thing as "extra metal". again die flow. When a crack in the die happens the metal has to go somewhere...


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the extra metal on the rim?


again VLDS Cud ( http://coins.about.com/od/coinsglos...ined.htmthe) metal has to flow.....think of it this
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 Posted 03/17/2014  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list
If this was reported as stated. What is the next step to correct the "mistake?"

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I hope that some of the other members with expertise in Indian Heads will render their opinions. I would like to know that if this is a real uncirculated coin,

Your kidding. Some of the expert members did reply.
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03/17/2014 3:26 pm
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 Posted 03/17/2014  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yooper to your friends list
Yes I saw that there were four replies while I was composing my previous reply. I seem to be getting in deeper and deeper with this. I am looking for an ebay phone number to contact them.
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 Posted 03/17/2014  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list
Let's not pile on the op! This is foremost a LEARNING site. While I agree that he/she may have,"jumped the gun" in reporting this seller, the basic concept of concern was there. yooper, if I may, move on and keep up the good fight.

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 Posted 03/17/2014  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Go-Rebels to your friends list
Penny looks OK to me...
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 Posted 03/17/2014  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list
Yooper, slow down!! You just posted twice the same thing. Wait until this post is read by the members . See what the best course of action is.
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 Posted 03/17/2014  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add beaglebailey to your friends list
Yooper, I think you are being a little too hard on yourself, Yes, you questioned the authenticity of the coin, but it was others who 'jumped the gun' and convinced you it was a fake. So there is plenty of blame to go around. Take it as a learning experience and move on. Also, when you ask a question on the forum don't always assume the first response is necessarily the correct answer. The members of this forum have varying degrees of expertise so, it is better to wait until a number of members respond before forming an opinion.
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 Posted 03/17/2014  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yooper to your friends list
I have talked to ebay on the phone and asked them to remove my report which they did. I also informed them that there was an earlier report on this item that was placed in error. They assured me that neither report would have a negative effect on the seller.

I also contacted the seller by email to apologize for submitting the report and to inform them that I had the report removed. I also asked them to let me know if there were any problems over this issue from ebay and I would do whatever was necessary to clean up my mess.
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 Posted 03/17/2014  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list
Yooper,
This should end.
I'm sending a message to those in the know.
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