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Pillar of the Community
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 well there go my plans of early retirement Thanks |
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So the scanner knows when you're trying to scan a bill? And I've always thought computers are stupid. Like this arizano?  There's the backwards curl on the bottom left, and the hit on the top right is actually a bit worse than the other two corners, got it folded a bit, but wasn't enough to break the fibres. They don't seem to go too much higher than face now. Maybe if I keep them for 10 years they will rise in value. Unless these bills are being hoarded now and other people have the same plan as I do. |
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With laser printing technology where it is... there have been many countries that have implored counter scanning devices on the notes...
Basically there are embedded codes in the patterns in the note that tell the scanner it is scanning a note and it won't allow it to be done.
You can with newer scanners scan older notes... I have had success with my newer scanner scanning my '35 and '37 issues ... although I never tried it with my '54's or 70's issues... You can also get an older scanner.. best is to look at garage sales.. (most scanners I have come across built before '92 do not have this technology built in it)
I personally am a bigger fan of photos of the note... I find with a scanner sometimes you can press the note down and with changing the sharpness and exposure just slightly you can make a minor fold almost completely dissapear.
When raw notes online the top grade I will EVER give a note is EF... if you can tell the difference between a CUNC and a GUNC note with only photos you are certainly a better grader than I.
Sorry for the rant.. but hope that clears up the scanner issues...
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Pillar of the Community
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Interesting post about scanners, Ag. It seems now people are making computers able to recognise things. Once or twice when I photograph a note my phone detects a face on the queen's face and focuses on it.
I might try finding an older scanner in the future. When polymers actually have numismatic value then I think it would be useful.
I can definitely see how much easier it is to manipulate a scan than a photo. I have experimented with this myself. By leaving the scanner top open, by closing the scanner top, and by weighing the scanner top down. By putting 3 A Level textbooks on top of my scanner, the bill comes out flatter and it looks like it is a much crispier and higher grade note.
I am a pretty bad grader actually since I tend to focus on the flaws a piece has and it often results in one or two grades too low. I do get it correct once in a while though.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Ag, I tried scanning some notes at 600 ppi yesterday night. From Canadian dollars, I scanned a $50 polymer and a $20 Journey series. I also scanned American 1981 $20 and 2003A $5. No problems, the scanned scanned all of them.
I will try later for $100 bill. Maybe it only forbids scanning of larger denominations.
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Pillar of the Community
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Slur: I'm not exactly sure what to say... you could be using an older scanner.. or one that was orginally destined for sale in a different market than Canada or simply one that doesn't comply with current recommendations (I'm not sure if it's law yet) that are set by the RCMP...
I do however know for a fact that both the journey and frontier issues have level 3 embedded patterns which scanners and computers should recognize as a note.
I don't know how your able to do it.. but I honestly wish I could... as of late I have been on a kick to catalog all my notes (when I'm done I will move on to my coins)
The cataloging includes all specs on the note and an HTML link to a picture front/back of the very note....
The picture taking process sucks.. (I hate it a whole lot more for coins! since I'm really not good at taking pictures) and adds a whole lot more time to this whole process...
Ohh I have been side tracked.. A.D.D. sucks! Never the less keep posting pics of your notes... LOVE to seem 'em!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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It's a printer/scanner/copier bought in Canada less than a year ago for about $100. I can give you the model type if you're curious. Cataloguing sounds like a very time consuming thing to do. I'm a messy person and I don't think I'll have the patience to finish it. You mentioned a HTML link, are you doing it on a website? I would very much like to see it if it is  Good luck with the cataloguing! I could upload my scan result in a host but I don't know if I'm allowed to put a 600 ppi scan of a bill online. Is it actually allowed to put a high-res scan of a banknote online? I came across this Wikipedia page that has several high res US$100 bill scans on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U...100front.jpg |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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It scans no problem..  Quote:
I don't know if I'm allowed to put a 600 ppi scan of a bill online. Why not? |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I guess some scanners just don't recognise bills.
So it is not illegal to put high res note scans online where everyone could see it?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I'm not sure what your saying, its already in circulation so what would that have to do with anything. Its your money not the governments, display it any way you want. Just look at ebay if someone wants a high res of a polymer there's plenty of them to be had. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Slur: I mentioned to the I.T. guys what I basically want to do and they recommended the following...
Create an excel file so I'm able to input all my data.. and in one of the cells I can create a link to an HTML file...
None of this will go "online" but just used to keep records and have pictures - almost like an album - for all my notes and coins..
I CHOOSE to cataglog as it does relax me a bit and allows me to review old pieces.. and if I'm busy cataloging I'm really not on the web trying to buy any more pieces... sorta a money saver too.. LOL
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I just thought, because some scanners don't allow scanning or copying bills, there's some legal problem with it.
That's great, Ag! While I don't really like working with spreadsheets myself, I know how to work with html I've been thinking of making a website where I can list my collection, but no time to make it yet. When school is less busy I will give it a go.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I don't know what grade you're in... but you certainly impress me... with some of the post you have put out there....
On a side note... I will make an HTML file.. but I won't be uploading it to the internet or anything like that... while I find it's okay to share with some people one has to be careful on the means...
Putting up your own website means that you have an I.P. and domain that's registered... that's a paper trail that could lead the wrong kinda person to your door...
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Canada
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The scanning of Canadian notes is not illegal, it is the printing of a scanned note that is. This would be considered as counterfeiting. However, counterfeiting law will not apply to any printed replica of Canadian printed money that is less than 3/4 or greater than 1 1/2 times the length or width of the bank note; and in black and white or only one-sided.
Edited by lenver
05/22/2014 1:31 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Ag, I'm in my last semester of 12th grade now and I'll be going to University for the Winter 2014 semester. I only spent half a year each on 10th and 11th grade though. School wants fast.
I do have a website of my own now, hosted by Google. You can search my username on google, and it will come out on top. It's called Legacy of the Ouroboros.
I don't think I'll put coin photos there (first reason: too much work!), I'll just list dates and major varieties and mark it when I've got it.
Thanks lenver, that clears things up! So it's illegal only when you print it, makes much more sense now.
Back then in Indonesia, they used to have play money that were of similar size as actual bills but made of plastic that feels the same as plastic bags, only thicker and opaque. They kept the whole bill picture for the background but it was pretty crude and blurry. Then they stuck irrelevant pictures on the foreground, like Barbie or Hello Kitty or Sinchan or Doraemon or something like that, all over the play money so it would be quite unrecognisable if not for the denomination showing. The text saying legal tender was also changed. You used to be able to buy a pack for cheap, but I didn't see many of them in the past few years.
Do these things exist in Canada or are they considered illegal?
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