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1958 Penny DDO

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 Posted 05/13/2014  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add khasil to your friends list


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 Posted 05/13/2014  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add khasil to your friends list
I am not sayng this 1958 is a DDO, not yet, but I am sorry, no one yet proved to me this is a machine. thanks.
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 Posted 05/13/2014  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list
Looks DDO so far to me. Last picture though has me puzzled though. First pic seems a north-south spread, but the last pic seems to show a north-east spread. Can you take the shot with different lighting?

Interesting coin though. I'd like to see how this one shakes out.
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 Posted 05/13/2014  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list
Coop, there are other listing for 1958 DDO's but it states there are no examples. Could this be one of those like I have found and it needs to be sent in for attribution. Just wondering? I am far from an expert but I have so many that are not listed because there is no example.
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 Posted 05/13/2014  12:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
The lighting is hard for me to determine what it is. From what I can see, I don't see hub doubling. The lighting is not over the coin and at an angle that doesn't help with the image. The date image is a lot better, but still not hub doubling from what I can see.

Even the 1995 that shows the DDO looks drowned in red light. I can see two light sources on this coin that does not give light an shadow that a single light source should have for micro shots. (Light sources at 12:00 & 8:00)
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 Posted 05/13/2014  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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THIS is what a 1958-P DDO looks like.

No that is what the MAJOR 58-P DDO likes like.


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Could there be other less dramatic versions - possibly. But very unlikely. If any others were found over the past 56 years, I am sure the TPG's would have them listed. As of 2014, There has only been one version reported by NGC.

Don't count on that, the TPG's usually only bother to list those varieties that they will certify or list on the label. These are usually the expensive ones. There are a LOT of doubled dies and other varieties that they don't list.
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 Posted 05/13/2014  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list
I am finding that out in a fast way and it is very frustrating. Thanks for your input. Deb
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 Posted 05/13/2014  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add khasil to your friends list
I agree that my lighting is bad, trying to make better pictures.

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Don't count on that, the TPG's usually only bother to list those varieties that they will certify or list on the label. These are usually the expensive ones. There are a LOT of doubled dies and other varieties that they don't list.


Oh lookie, even coppercoins only lists ONE other DDO variant after 50+ years and that one doesn't even consider the IGWT as part of the markers.
CONECA lists only one, which they have marked as "Unconfirmed".

TPG's typically will NOT certify a coin unless they have some documentation to back it up. The only TPG that seems to put their "coins" on the line is ANACS which will certify a non documented coin. I'd like to see some of these other "non-major" certified DDO's of 1958. Anyone Know of any?

If the owner of the coin is so adamant about the validity of the find, pack the coin up, send it into a TPG service and show us the label when it comes back. I should only cost about $30.00 plus shipping and insurance to know for sure.
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Thank you everybody. If ever try to certify this coin I'll have figure out how to do it without mailing it or forget about it, just keep it and enjoy it.
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Just a normal coin. Thanks for the better image. Lighting can make or break what another person sees. Reflection off the inside rim can make it look like there is something there, but it is just reflected light. The last image was a great help.
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 Posted 05/14/2014  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add khasil to your friends list
Pictures of the same coin but reverse. thanks.


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 Posted 05/14/2014  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list
Hi khasil - can you change the lighting to remove the glare?
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I will open a new topic with 1958 new pictures on obverse, but tomorrow. Thank you very much everybody. Have a good night.
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I know I have one, Because last night no joke. When I bought it I was thinking ok nice mint proof red deep cameo 1958. The one that they issued from the us mint in 1957,1958 I took it out the mint cello packet. oh man this penny of three existing as known of too all coin collectors and the mint. oh my precious ive been so curious lately by just eye balling this GUY man I know iv look at it for over 20 hr rough estimate. had it for awhile an I cutt the edge of the old aged fiftys plastic cello at 1am this morning, I laid out my cotton gloves on the tabel put my bright butt headband flash light on got out my 16x an 40x loops out.sliped one brand new cotton glove onn slipped it out on the cotton then I open both loops turn the head band on put the other glove on an then (Omg#8660;00#8660;damn) it really is as I thought took lots of pics through my loops and zoom in on that guy one heck a find ive known about it just did want to get my hopes up and say that. ohh noooo! The only reason why I haven't sent it in um, broke and I dont have 100,000.00 just because it a MSPR69ULTRADEEPCAM or MSPR70ULTRADEEPCAMEO... heck IT COULD VAULE TOO MANY MILLIONS THAT OK THOUGH I DONT HAVE GRADEING FEES HERES THE PHOTOS
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