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Edited by scoutjim99
08/07/2007 8:18 pm
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Regarding the NOVA EBORAC, I have not been following these closely enough for several years to know exactly what it would go for. However the values are listed in the RedBook. My RedBook is 1999  , so someone with a newer copy can check it for you. Here is one on ebay (IMHO overgraded) http://cgi.ebay.com/1787-Nova-Ebora...30_W0QQitemZ320143456262QQihZ011QQcategoryZ528QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Ok so in VF-30 it is $700.00? So would that make mine around $100-$150? By the way thanks Scoutim that helps show the coins better than my scanner! Unidentified 9:   Unidentified 10:   Unidentified 11:   Unidentified 12:   Unidentified 13:   Edited by pattiewhack
08/08/2007 10:20 am
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The Coat of Arms, ALBERTVS in the legend, and the AE monogram in the center of the "cross floree" are all good clues. Looks like #2 is a billon 1/2 patard (1/2 sol) from Flanders (KM #19) in the Spanish Netherlands (Belgium) issued in 1615 by Albert and IsabellaEdited to repair broken linkEdited by t360
08/07/2007 9:48 pm
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Need to sign off now. (Wife would like some conversation) You know who will enjoy these! (I don't want to bogart too many)
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#1: New York sounds fair enough to me; I'm no expert in colonials. But what's a colonial American doing in a scratchtray in France?
#2: t360 nailed this one good.
#3: Bern ½ batzen, looks like 1773 or 1793? What's your take on the date? CV around $4 or so, I'd guess. Made of billon.
#4: Denmark, CV $6 in VF.
#5: A late Roman bronze in the name of Constantius II . He wasn't emperor at the time, but held the junior rank of Caesar. Obverse legend FL IVL CONSTANTIVS NOB C. Reverse type: GLORIA EXERCITVS (Glory of the Army), two soldiers standing each holding two imperial legionary standards between them. Mintmark: TR*S - Treveri, modern Trier, Germany.
#6: French zodiac jeton.
#7: Luzern ½ batzen 1714, KM 45,. CV $3.25 in VG.
#8: Not from "German Prussia", but from "East Prussia", listed under Poland in the Krauses. 3 groschen 1785, E mintmark, KM/C# 21, CV $7 in Good, $18 in Fine.
Whew! you need to break up your ID requireds into separate theads next time, pattiewhack - easier to keep track of!
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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The second wave:
#9: Very hard to be sure; the corrosion has stolen much of the important information, on the coat of arms and ruler's titles. Based on the tiny bit I can read, "D: BRA", I'd guess Brandenburg, the precursor state of Prussia, though the coat of arms doesn't look Prussian at all. Maybe it's Brabant, Low Countries. The style looks 1600's or even 1500's.
#10: You'll love this one: Papal City-State of Bologna (Italy), quattrino 1691. KM 114, CV $16 in Fine. "bononia docet" means "Bologna is the teacher".
#11: Aieee! I need more words! Looks like this poor thing's been severely clipped; I think I can read "POEL", but I'm not sure. With the castle I was thinking Hamburg, but in the 1600's they were using a more ornate style of castle then. Unfortunately, the "Instant identifier" in the 1600's Krause only covers German states.
#12: Another mystery to me, though my gut instinct was "mediaeval Italian states".
#13: ditto. The "hollow cross" reminds me of a coin I have from Savoy/Sardinia.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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#9: Brabant, pretty sure now. Philip II of Spain, latter half of the 1500's. I make the obverse (portrait) side to read "PHS D G HISP Z REX D BRA". Cut and paste that exact phrase into Google and you should find coins similar to yours. Not sure of the denomination, but 1/5th ecus seem to be a common Google hit. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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#12: Bingo. Found a bit of the inscription I could read: "REX NAVAR D" - typed that into the CoinArchives search and found a perfect match for your coin - it's a French provincial, from King Henri II of Navarre, 1516-1555. The denomination is a "liard". Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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The NY piece paid for the whole lot in of in itself. I have found colonial USA coins in junk bins before, once a Connecticut cent from 1787 in a junk box that the dealer admitted he had salted with it. When I pulled it out and bought it he asked me if I knew what it was, I said "I think so, see the Auctori Conn in the legend". He said he had put it in the 25¢ box about 25 years before and it had sat there ever since until I bought it. The cent is a beater piece, but not a bad buy at 25¢.
Coingratulations on your finds, all of them are worth much more than €2 each, but the NY piece sure takes the cake.
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#3: Bern ½ batzen, looks like 1773 or 1793? What's your take on the date? CV around $4 or so, I'd guess. Made of billon.
#4: Denmark, CV $6 in VF.
The 1/2 batzen is 1753, and the Denmark is closer to XF. Again, my scanner just SUCKS. Ill get my sister to get some photos to show them better. She wasn't around when I scanned. WOW THANKS EVERYONE! |
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I think #13 (the coin with the crowned F) is a liard struck by the French King François I (1515-1547). There was a dealer selling these but I went to his web site and they were gone. I would need to check the Duplessy reference work on early Royal coinage to be sure. I think I will order Duplessy; never can have too many coin books, especially when the information is not available on the Internet. If so, it could be worth about 30-50 euros.
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30-50 sounds good- I just hope ebay agrees. I am on contract to sell most (some are mine- the N.Y. one included) of these coins for my uncle and split the profits. I will be offering most of them here first though. Andrew |
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