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They were about the same size as the dimes. There were some silver dimes in the batch of rolls as well. I was completely floored when I came across the first one, (the Edward II), The second coming a few weeks later was really crazy! I think the little counting machines that they sell in Wal-mart has a lot to do wit it. Anything that is sizewise like a US coin can end up in a roll. I'm guessing the same people rolled up some coins a few weeks apart and cashed them in. These little gems must have been mixed in with their dimes. Thanks for the responses! Bill |
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definitely Edward 1 1280-1281 anno domini. I know another site which have more specialism at antiquities like these coins. Drop me a line as I am not allowed to mention it at this site.
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You can email me at foundinrolls@netscape.net
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United Kingdom
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It is very difficult to tell the difference between an Edward I and II penny as Edward II wanted the coins in his reign to be the continuation of Edward I.
Edward I struck his coins in 13 different mints. While Edward II only used 5. Sometimes this can help, however both your coins were minted in London which was used by both Edwards.
You can tell the difference through the different classes. You do this by looking at the obverse legend and crowns. Your legends and obverses are little worn however I would place the coin on the left as Class 2A and the one Class 3C. Which would make them both Edward I. Edward II coins are generally Class 10B to Class 15C.
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it is nice to see some collectors from other parts of the world here Welcome!
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Hi hussulo, these long cross pennies are a fascinating but complex series. What are the reference books you are using which describe the different classes? I have one of Wren's books, but it only covers the voided long cross pennies of Henry III and Edward I.
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The only thing I could tell you is that they are long cross pennies because the cross extends to the edge - or have they already been clipped? ;)
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United Kingdom
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One thing I always like coming across is when these coins have been cut into halves or quarters to use as smaller denominations. Again...I've found a few like that metal detecting. The first ever silver hammered I came across was half a penny from Henry 11. Lovely coins to collect, full of history.
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The cut halves and quarters are interesting, but never command much of a price on ebay or practically any other venue. Several years ago I bought a hoard of about 70-80 examples that included Irish, Scottish, and English for about $20. Some of the pieces notably the Henry I quarter and a few of the Scottish are worth more than that by themselves. But as a lot they do not go for much if you are not willing to attribute them. |
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"Hi hussulo, these long cross pennies are a fascinating but complex series. What are the reference books you are using which describe the different classes? I have one of Wren's books, but it only covers the voided long cross pennies of Henry III and Edward I."
I am mainly a milled coin collector thus don't have a huge lot of books on hammered coins. The one I use regularly is Coincraft's Standard catalogue of English and UK coins 1066 to date.
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Having read more.... WOW!! could it have been they were placed in there for fun? by someone who has more coins than are good for them?
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My only guess is that they were placed in the rolls by using a small coin counting machine. They sell them in various retail stores. Anything you dump into one of those things gets sorted by size and can end up in a roll.
The dime wrapper was the kind that is used in one of those devices, so that is what I suspect happened.
Of course, someone who may have thought they were play money. or someone just having fun may have put them in the rolls.
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I still have no idea how to get rolls from UK places - I went into my local bank and they looked at me with a puzzled expression when I asked for rolls...
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Someone mentioned that there is no rolls in UK even here in ireland by bags or ziplock.
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