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Also is the tube a .965" diameter on your camera adapter? I'm betting it's smaller than the eyepieces, which may be 1.25" Also which model AmScope is yours Jprine? I'm betting we can sort this out, I've tackled tougher issues when I sold telescopes, this is most likely a distance issue after seeing the photo of your whole set-up.
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Edited by westcoin 08/23/2014 02:55 am
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westcoin-here is a pic of all the parts that came with the scope. Part a is the canon mount, the tube screws into a mounting ring. part b is the piece that moved down into the tri port. You can see that this piece can be messed up and down, but it is very gross and nowhere near a fine enough adjustment to get a focus. I have not a clue what parts c and d are for. They do not fit on the camera or scope at all. I can remove the adapter ring from the tube but without attached together, I have no way to mount the camera at all. I can take part b off the tri port and put the camera with ring/tube attahced into the tri port (it doesn't fit perfectly, it still moves) but still cannot get a focus. I move the head up and down and it gets near focus (see previous pics) then right out of focus, ie., I cannot get it focused in either direction. The adapter is smaller than the eyepiece. I can manually hold the camera with adapter in the larger eyepiece hole and get a focused shot. It is hard to hold steady and take a shot so that is not an realistic option. My scope is a 1TX, 3.5x45. Also, when the camera is mounted to the tri port, besides not being in focus, the field is much darker that through the eyepiece. Not sure if that is significant, but the difference is huge. I can adjust that to some degree by changing ISO, etc, but cannot get the same light situation as through the eyepiece. Thanks for your response and any continued help/suggestions will be GREATLY APPRECIATED.  
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jprine,
When placing the camera in the trinocular slot, (forget the eyepieces for now) and put your Canon on, when you focus the camera (with live view) are you going up or down the rail with the scope, to get close to focus, i.e.; direction where it looks like focus is getting better? Is the the whole unit moving up up or down?
Make sure your scope is on the lowest zoom setting of 3.5x
This will help me determine the next step.
The image is much darker through the camera adapter due to the 2x lens, you are getting only half as much light through using a doubling barlow, same on a telescope or a camera lens using a 2x tele-extender.
Also as I asked earlier, can the lens at the bottom of the your part A be removed or unscrewed from the camera adapter tube? If so try taking that lens off and using the camera in the Trinocular hole without that 2x lens, I'd bet that might come into focus, I could be wrong, but by adding the 2x lens the imaging plane (camera) will need to be farther away (out from scope).
Does part C or D fit onto the trinocular tube Part B? (Do either C or D have any lenses in them or are they just tubes)?
If one of the C or D fits onto the trinocular tube, I think I have the solution - but will wait to hear your answers on the above questions.
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Edited by westcoin 08/23/2014 3:23 pm
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I also don't see in the packing list any camera adapter set, so I assume you ordered this part separately from the scope package, which adapter part # did you get, I want to look it up on their website to see all the goodies in that package. I'm interested in parts and thread sizes plus lengths of the adapter/extension tubes.
Thanks.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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I don't think it is a dirty port, I can hold the eyepiece over the tri port and it looks ok. I called AmScope Friday but they were closed.
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west coin, here is the scope and camera numbers.
3.5X-45X Trinocular Inspection Microscope with Super Large Stand SKU: SM-1TX
Canon SLR/DSLR Camera Adapter for Microscopes SKU: CA-CAN-SLR
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Here's what I need from jprine to figure this out, (asked above):
Can the lens at the bottom of the your part A be removed or unscrewed from the camera adapter tube?
If so try taking that lens off and using the camera in the Trinocular hole without that 2x lens, I'd bet that might come into focus, I could be wrong, but by adding the 2x lens the imaging plane (camera) will need to be farther away (out from scope).
Does part C or D fit onto the trinocular tube Part B? (Do either C or D have any lenses in them or are they just tubes)?
If one of the C or D fits onto the trinocular tube, I think I have the solution - but will wait to hear your answers on the above questions.
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Yes, the part A can be removed from the camera adapter, but that leaves the adapter ring (which can also be removed from the camera). If I remove Part A, the camera port is much larger than the tri port and has no way of connecting. With part B removed from the tri port, neither C or D will fit on the tri. With part B in place, both C and D will fit on top of B, but it does not fit properly, they are both bigger and move around. Neither C or D fit the tri port. I was supposed to get another adapter with my order but did not, I have called AmScope and they will replace that part. Here is a pic of the adapter with the mounting ring removed.  Thanks!
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The ring that attaches to your camera is a standard T-Ring in EOS mount, the threads on the inside of the flange (it can be removed - note tiny set screws on outside edge) is a T-Thread adapter, this way they only need to make one flange then just add it to what ever camera mount is called for.
I see A removed from the T-Ring in photo above, I am assuming the lens on the bottom does not come out or unscrew?
I've no idea what parts C & D do now, I am guessing they are simply extension tubes, or mounts for other sized scopes they may sell. I would think they would attach to the Trinocular port (B) by messing with on with threads, but apparently not.
With the T-Ring attached to the Camera body and the A part screwed into the T-Ring, and B fit into the scope, when you drop the camera into B with the tube A it doesn't fit snugly? This is a problem.
There must be a missing part as you've said, the A should fit snuggly into B mounted on the tri-port. When you just look through the camera does it need to raise up out of the try port to get into focus? I would think so. Hence why I wanted to see if part A lens unscrewed off the end, that lens will make the need for the camera to be farther away from the scope.
Is there threading at the top of A where the small tube meets the larger part? IF so the part you are missing probably slides over A and screws on there making a longer extension that will then drop into or thread into B when attached to the Tri hole.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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westcoin-correct, the lense (part A) does not come out. With the T-ring attached and part A screwed in, it does fit snuggly into port B. It seems to fit properly. (in my last post, I was referring to C & D not fitting snuggly on B). The bottom of A does not come out (unscrew). The only seperation is with part A and the adapter ring (pic in previous post). With part A removed from the camera and put into the tri port, I can get a very clear and focused image; however, I cannot simultaneously get a focused image in the eyepiece, ie. the two are not in sync (not sure if they should be). Also, looking through part A only, the image is as bright as it is in the eyepiece but with the camera attached (see pic below) not only is out of focus bud much darker. I also got a clear focused view with Part A only (no camera attached) in the tri port, removed part A, attached it to the camera and reinsetted back in the tri port making sure not to move the focus ring, and the focus is totally gone. The smaller part of A does not screw out of the larger part nor is there any small screws allowing adjustment. Here is the best shot I can get by looking through the camera:  This shot is with a 144 led light ring on full blast and a jansco about 1 inch away from the coin. I can manipulate this some (ISO) but cannot obtain the same lighting level as through the eyepiece. This may be a whole seperate issue or related in some way. As you can tell, I am lost.
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That is what I thought, it is the 2x lens from part A that is not allowing focus to be reached, I will wait to see what part you get that was missing, should be interesting, I'd like to see a part like A without any lens in it's optical path, the microscope should provide all the magnification you need by itself.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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I will post an update once the new parts arrive.
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Quote: I'll bet the problem is the optics in the camera adapter. That's what I'm getting at too rmpsrpms! I think that barlow lens is no good or at least the problem area.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
Edited by westcoin 08/29/2014 03:26 am
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Well, I had to send pics of everything I got to AmScope with my original order. Got a response back today saying they would send the adapters that I didn't get, but they were not useful as they they were standard adapters that were designed to connect different sized camera adapters to the scope. Since mine fits as designed these would not do me any good. Sooooo, I gave them a detailed description of the problem I was having and asked for assistance. I hope to hear back from them soon. Will update when I hear.
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Well, its been a long journey trying to fix my focus issues with my AmScope. I have spent the last few weeks exchanging emails and pics with AmScope trying to figure out my problem. They were very helpful from the standpoint of continuing to work with me making suggestions, etc., but we were unable to resolve the focus issues using the triport on the scope. So, today I received an adapter (that should have come with my original purchase but did not for some reason) so I can mount my camera in one of the eyepiece ports. Below are my first attempts. You can see that I have some lighting issues to resolve and need to work on getting a little better focus, but, I am pleased with the result. Little unhappy that I cant use the tri port, but, happy that I can accomplish what I bought the scope for anyway.   1955D-1MM-002  1956D-1MM-005
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