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1957-D RPM Help

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 Posted 08/16/2014  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AMB to your friends list
Hi john, I Thought that too about the reverse BUT the obverse 9 is a match too...the bottom of the nine has that "extended" flat tail. Does the MM placement seem right? I think so...
But the "primary" D has those extra serifs.
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 Posted 08/16/2014  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Placement of the MM looks right to me anyway. Maybe your coin is an earlier die state?
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 Posted 08/16/2014  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AMB to your friends list
Could it actually be a D/D/D? Hypothetically would that change the listing?
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 Posted 08/16/2014  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AMB to your friends list
Here's the pic above zoomed in and in Black/White to better define the serif on the primary D.

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 Posted 08/16/2014  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
I think we need to wait for coop.
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 Posted 08/16/2014  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
On the CONECA Disk, they list three die stages. The Stage "c" shows a die chip on the "5" in the date. Yours does not have that, so it maybe a later stage of "b". The die gouges below the mint mark are not present on the stage 'b' on the disk. On all three examples the split serif does not show on the CONECA examples in the three die stages. So it might be contact mark? But it does appear to be 007 from what I can see.
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 Posted 08/16/2014  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AMB to your friends list
New pictures of the serif on the primary D.

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 Posted 08/16/2014  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AMB to your friends list
The upper serif shows division near the coin. A top that it disappears into the triangular flat at the surface of the primary D. It may be too coincidental to be contact marks, don't you think? Opinions pls

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 Posted 08/16/2014  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
That is a split serif. So it may/may not be from the same die?
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 Posted 08/16/2014  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AMB to your friends list
So...I have to ask, it would be a D/D/D, and would that be a new RPM that is not listed? I can't seem to locate it on coneca's master list, and we know it's not on the CC site. Any opinions? THX.
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 Posted 08/17/2014  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
You might send very good images to Jame Wiles and see what he thinks on this one? It maybe something they over looked, or a different die variety? See where it goes from there?
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 Posted 08/17/2014  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AMB to your friends list
I have emailed James and will report back if anything evolves.
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 Posted 08/19/2014  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AMB to your friends list
I received a response back from James Wiles, but I'm a little confused. Would like hear any opinions first before mine. Here is a copy of the reply:

There does indeed appear to be a very minor split lower serif on RPM-007. Such minor splits are considered to be within mint tolerances and thus not considered for inclusion in the designation or listings.
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 Posted 08/19/2014  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
So he is basically saying, that the die does have a D/D/D but they aren't going to change it. Seems like they missed the first time around and later on noticed this was the case.
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 Posted 08/19/2014  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AMB to your friends list
That's exactly what I was thinking. We caught a mistake. He admits there is a split in the serif but I was surprised by his follow up: "Such minor splits are considered to be within mint tolerances and thus not considered for inclusion in the designation or listings."
So I guess that means if you find a double die but it's only minor, it's not a double die. 😳
I play a lot of tennis and we have a saying "if the ball hits the line and it's 99.9% out, it's actually 100% in....hope you get my point.
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