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1916 Barber Dime

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 Posted 08/18/2014  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
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 Posted 08/18/2014  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1487 to your friends list
I agree with AU details, toning looks a bit strange. Although looking at some slabbed barbers on ebay, some might have similar dark toning. Hard to judge without more pics, lighting may be affecting it.
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 Posted 08/18/2014  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgettings00 to your friends list
I got this in a coin lot which was from someone's old collection. It was in a yellowed 2x2 and had rusted staples. I really don't think it's artificial toning.

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 Posted 08/18/2014  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chasingtailbar to your friends list
A coin with details like that should have some luster remaining. No luster = terminal toning = details grade.

LOL I just went looking for it on ebay, thinking I'd put like, a $20 bid in and submit it if I won, just to prove my point... and found it. $205 opening bid? Okay...

I could buy this one for less!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191124286143
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08/18/2014 3:08 pm
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 Posted 08/18/2014  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgettings00 to your friends list
Actually it does have some luster underneath the toning, I just wasn't able to capture it on my camera
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 Posted 08/18/2014  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chasingtailbar to your friends list
The black areas have no luster, that is terminal toning. Dipping this coin would reveal damaged surfaces. The coin is worth maybe 1/10th of your opening bid. A couple ebay bidiots might get you to $50.

I don't mean to offend, but you need to get your head out of the clouds and realize what this coin is actually worth. Even a problem-free AU58 is worth less than $100. If you really wanted to sell it and really wanted to know what it's worth, you'd list at 99 cents and let 'er rip.
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08/18/2014 3:15 pm
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 Posted 08/18/2014  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OLCoins to your friends list
I don't think this is artificially toned. You see similar toning on higher grade coins that have been stored in a grimey environment for a long time.
I'd say AU50 and I like it because of the originality

When it comes to a coin like this who cares what a TPG would say, you either like this look or you don't.

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 Posted 08/18/2014  3:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatchaser140 to your friends list
Whether it has articial, terminal toning or not, your price is way off.
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 Posted 08/18/2014  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chasingtailbar to your friends list

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I don't think this is artificially toned.


I don't either, I just think it was left improperly stored for far too long. Possibly a dug coin, but the intact, non-porous surfaces mean it was probably not, or if it was, the soil was quite neutral. So I think that is unlikely.
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 Posted 08/18/2014  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgettings00 to your friends list

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I don't mean to offend, but you need to get your head out of the clouds and realize what this coin is actually worth. Even a problem-free AU58 is worth less than $100. If you really wanted to sell it and really wanted to know what it's worth, you'd list at 99 cents and let 'er rip


Not at all. This is what I feel like it is worth personally. Some people really like the look, like I do. And others see it as damaged or too dark. I understand some will value it a lot lower but I also know that there's others who will enjoy the look as much as I do and see it as one of a kind. It's just a matter if they see the ebay listing or not. I have seen hundreds of coins that look exactly like the one you posted, I don't see why I would prefer that over the one I have even if it is a lower grade.

That is the price I would be comfortable selling it for, anything less and I wouldn't feel satisfied. If it doesn't sell then I just get to spend more time with it in my collection and that's okay with me. I think my head is right where it needs to be.
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 Posted 08/18/2014  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chasingtailbar to your friends list
Thought you needed the money to help pay for a trip? The only reason I've even continued to talk about it is because if you really need the money to help pay for your trip, you're going to have to lower your opening bid to get any money at all. If you'd rather hold onto it, fair enough, that's your prerogative. I've got a couple coins on ebay that I don't need to sell, but have listed in case somebody feels like ponying up crazy money for them. Nothing wrong with that.
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 Posted 08/18/2014  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgettings00 to your friends list
Well, I suppose the fact that I'm reluctantly selling it instead of selling it to get a quick return is also a good explanation as to why I'm starting the bid so high and I don't want to get anything less than what I personally value it at.

Not only is it from my personal collection but $30 isn't going to do much for my trip if it's a bad week to auction on ebay
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08/18/2014 3:49 pm
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 Posted 08/18/2014  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list
That coin looks AT even more so in the second picture. I do not buy the originality of the surfaces one bit. I see carbon blotching on the reverse and very dark where it occurs. I see the spot on the 10:00 obverse that "has not toned like the rest of the coin". I am not the all end all and would love to see more opinions from more experienced veterans whose feedback I have to come trust over the years on the forum. I am just not sold yet that this is not an AT coin.

Lastly, $205? It's a $15 - $20 dime on its best auction day. You'd land some fish if that dime sold for even $35.

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 Posted 08/18/2014  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chasingtailbar to your friends list
I just don't think AT because if you're going to AT it, you can do a heck of a lot better job than that... unless it was somebody experimenting who messed up royally.
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 Posted 08/19/2014  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fayette1800 to your friends list
I don't think we will know unless you send it in to be graded. I think the coin has a great look, but I guess it depends on how dark it really is.I would say AU50. I do think it is overpriced though. I would price it more in the AU range and go from there.
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