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The serifs are divided/split...isn't it an RPM
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Coop, this is really neat, this is in fact the 031 but a different die state. I know the die crack on CC reference is lower but look at the other markers I have. It's an interesting match!! Why would we see such a change in the die crack orientation from north on mine and migrating south on the coin referenced on CC's http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds |
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It maybe a minor RPM with those splits. But a die crack doesn't move on a die. On 031 the lower serif area is affected, and on your coin the upper area is affected. Reverse dies can be changed out when the die is done. Then another re-marriage can happen. The obverse die that created your coin maybe a different die that started that pattern in later die states.
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Emailed you a progressive overlay...perfect line up of MM placement, as the images are increased/decreased in the overlay sequence the die crack is in line from the nine and the device. If each MM is hand placed it'd be amazing that it was in the exact position? ...amazing accuracy from the individual that did it by hand. I wonder if my coin is earlier (or later) adding the upper portion of the die cracks. The die chip on the T on reverse is certainly much more pronounce. IDK. Just trying to piece it together. I think I'll post the overlays. Extend credit to CopperCoins image, it is not my own and used here only for educational comparisons overlaid into my coin for a sequence of reference:
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The problem I see it that it would have to be two different dies as the progression of the die crack can't go into two directions. It would be all on the upper serif or all on the lower serif. I don't see a away that it could go both ways on the same die progression.
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Here's another thought and closer observation of my coin...maybe the upper portion is actually a die chip and it's additional to the die crack. It does resemble other die chips with its sharp raised feature. Just like the tail of the 5 from a previous post I've posted. ? Maybe...
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Just looking at the die chip here(previous posted coin)...maybe a die chip in the D in the subject posted coin in addition to a die crack...maybe...  Edited by AMB
08/24/2014 07:54 am
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Maybe this portion is a die chip... I'm just say'n.... Maybe.  |
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That is a die chip. Which is my point. A die chip happens when an area on the die falls away. There is now a void in that location, making a raised area on the coins. This doesn't go away. On the 031, something happened similar to that but on the lower serif area. It would have to be two different events on two different dies. I just don't see away that it could happen on the same die.
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My apologies. Misunderstood. I was thinking the "die crack" extending from the 9 to the south of the D was completely independent from the die chip and two separate possibilities that COULD occur possibly as an anomaly. The die crack initially on first run coins and then the die chip at some random striking moment in the mint process from there on, later coins in the series from the same die. Sorry for the misunderstanding. 😳 it's just my naiveness.
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