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 Posted 09/01/2014  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
They look like dies to make modern reproductions. They do not look original at all.
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 Posted 09/01/2014  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
All the dies I've seen from 19th C. onwards don't have such a large shoulder around the design. And the machining shows much higher tolerances overall. After all, the die had to fit into a collar with very little extra room to spare. Granted, most of the dies I've seen have been in Europe, but I think they used the same general principles as their American contemporaries.
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 Posted 09/01/2014  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list
Finding the die for a St Gaudens double eagle would be one thing. But a die for a 1933 St Gaudens double eagle?
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 Posted 09/02/2014  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
This link shows the galvano for an Eisenhower dollar. It is a positive image like your examples, and it has a date. But the Eisenhower galvano is a large plaster model of the actual coin, not its reverse image. (Link from "coin auctions help" - remove the spaces).

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How big are these things and what are they made of? If your examples were used as dies to press coins they would read correctly but would be incuse, like an Indian head half eagle.
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 Posted 09/02/2014  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ant76 to your friends list
Its roughly 5 inches around but much heavier then 1 lb. should I go on ebay and find a press? We can start banging out st guadens coins lol. Whatever they are they are pretty cool
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Its roughly 5 inches around but much heavier then 1 lb. should I go on ebay and find a press? We can start banging out st guadens coins lol. Whatever they are they are pretty cool


They're not dies. They can't make coins. A die is a cylinder maybe .125" wider in diameter than the coin itself. And it wasn't until the 1980's that dates were added to Galvanos.
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 Posted 09/02/2014  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
Here's a guess. A coin (or fantasy coin like the 1933) was copied to make a large reverse mould. This was used to make big coin replicas for decor. Coin shops usually have one or two of these sitting around. Here's a giant Buffalo nickel:

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I'm not sure what they are but the workmanship is much too crude to be of use use for anything.
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 Posted 09/02/2014  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tkbslc to your friends list
There are a lot of silver rounds with designs copied from popular U.S. classic coins. That would be my guess for what they are from.
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 Posted 09/02/2014  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ant76 to your friends list
Thanks for the info. I agree, they are much too crude to be used for currency. Maybe something novelty
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The thing that gets to me is, these are positives. That means anything they're used to produce will be incuse in design. I thought about them being a half of a casting mold (the dots on the Seated mold could be registration points for the other half), but I'm still stopped at the positive/negative orientation of the design.
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The thing that gets to me is, these are positives. That means anything they're used to produce will be incuse in design. I thought about them being a half of a casting mold (the dots on the Seated mold could be registration points for the other half), but I'm still stopped at the positive/negative orientation of the design.
They don't look like positives to me. It's a bit tough to tell from the slightly-blurry straight-on pictures, but the objects in question look to have incuse designs. Could be my eyes playing tricks on me, though!

Definitely not actual coin dies, though, as everyone else has said.
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They are stamps for metal ceiling tiles.
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Check the edge for a notation:

"Made in China"
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 Posted 09/03/2014  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ant76 to your friends list
I doubt they are from china. I will take a angles shot for you. Like I said, whatever they are they are neat. They will look cool sitting on a shelf.
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