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Valued Member
Canada
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And you have to be very careful about the packaging of the earlier PL sets. Many circulation sets were put into similar cardboard holders so the state of the coins can't be determined solely on the packaging. The Charlton catalog has a good write-up of what the genuine holders looked like (most often stamped with the Mint's name and address on Sussex Drive).
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Yes, I was fooled, cardboard holders with plastic covers. I'm confused about PL graded coins in those years now, but I will do the research. I'm guessing it could be a bit of a win, win as now I'm looking at high ms grades and I'm guessing more chance of finding errors.
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Valued Member
 Canada
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I'm guessing these would be original PL sets? 
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Guessing is right. It has the appearance of the original RCM packaging. The original cellophane quickly became brittle,fragile, and somewhat opaque.Seems that on most sets the original plastic was repaired or replaced,sometimes one or more coins was replaced with a circulation strike. Many sets with with tears by the dollar like yours had the dollar removed and replaced with a circulation coin.As well these cardboard holders were widely available and many sets in them are simply after market assembled sets. The only way to tell if the set is original is to examine all the coins to ensure they are all PL strikes. About twenty years ago I learned a very expensive lesson while buying the '53-'60 sets from unreputable or unknowledgeable dealers.Be careful!
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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I agree with DBM. I'd be cautious of buying one of these sets without being able to see it first. I have seen them advertised with no wrapping as it had supposedly disinegrated. How then, do you know they are the original coins? I also saw one on ebay advertised with the original cardboard holder. The holder was original, as it had the RCM printing on it. Only problem with this is that it was a set of 58 coins and the RCM printing was only issued with the 60 set.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Isn't it also true that even if it is a completely genuine early set of coins from the mint, 0-6 could be PL?
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Pillar of the Community
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Yes
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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Valued Member
 Canada
444 Posts |
If an original proof set was found in a holder that was in less than perfect condition, would it be better to replace the holder? If the holder was replaced would it lower the set value?
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Valued Member
 Canada
444 Posts |
Had a good find among the sets, 1953 no shoulder fold.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
21664 Posts |
Yes, changing the holder would reduce the value. It would be like cleaning a coin to make it look better. It is the original holder that drives up the prices. Compare value of pre 61 sets in cardboard to the later issues in pliofilm. Also, to change cardboard, what would become of the the original cellophane jacket which most collectors would require.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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The reason a lot of the early sets got broken up is simple. One coin that was a superior example could easily pay for the value of the entire set . Remember buy coins Not holders.
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Any information on this set, I've not seen another like it.  
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New Member
Canada
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yes I've seen that before a couple of times I saw an exact one on this forum too! I belive its a royal trust coin set (a banking institution) that cave these out if you created a account, they are not worth too much but 1967 may be worth a bit more... around $30  i hope I helped - http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...PIC_ID=46778EDIT: after reviewing the coins, the grading may be less because of spotting so I would say its not even worth $30 but it is a great piece of history
Edited by CoinsChangeLives 10/17/2014 10:35 pm
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Valued Member
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I had the RT right then, thanks, that did help.
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