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1921 Newfoundland 50 Cent Piece?

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 Posted 11/13/2014  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list
I had a writing deadline to meet, so I didn't drive up. Looking forward to seeing what it was!
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 Posted 11/14/2014  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liverpool to your friends list
It's Friday morning and the auction is over. My family activities kept me from going to the auction last night so I asked a friend to bid for the coin in my place. This adds a little bit to my story because in doing this I did not get to have a good look at the coin other then the quick eye ball through glass earlier in the day (when I confirmed that it was not a Newfoundland 50 cent piece). With this in mind, I like everyone else have to be cautious on how I spend my cash. I came up with a max for my friend to go to and now I am looking forward to learning if I won the auction.
I will see my friend around lunch time, if I won he will most likely have the coin in hand.
This has been interesting / exciting. There is, like the original post stated a very very good chance that the coin is a fake. I, as stated above, made my bid with very little information (gambling with long odds) this is not like me. The coin could be made of plastic.
If the coin is a fake I will be out more money then I'd like because odds are I will have won the auction, buyers with more time would most likely have seen what I did not see. If there is the smallest chance the the coin is real I did not bid any where high enough and I will have no chance of owning the coin.
So..... fake.....I will be out some money but own an interesting story.... I'm okay with this.
Real.......... not likely, no really there is no chance that it is real but just for fun if it is, I have at least seen the coin (through glass). If it is real someone else would have easily out bid me. If it is real and I won the auction.................. honestly can't see it. Think Bruce Willis shows up with a flying monkey at your door and invites you to the moon for lunch and gives you a bag of gold coins. Can't happen.

More later today.
thanks for reading, I hope you've been at least a little bit entertained.
Liverpool
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11/14/2014 09:35 am
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 Posted 11/14/2014  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liverpool to your friends list
"they are as elusive as a sasquatch! They do not exist! I was being a numiscomedian"

With the discussion including the reality of fakes I thought that is what you had and seeing pictures of some "real" fakes would have been awesomely helpfully before I decided to bid.

I do intend to try and find images of fake old coins in hopes of furthering my edcuation. Yesterday really opened my eyes to my lack of knowledge and it may end up costing me real money.
cheers
Liverpool
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 Posted 11/14/2014  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
Could it be the real MacKoy? and be a CAN 1921?
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 Posted 11/14/2014  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
47P7: I seriously doubt it... would be kinda cool to see one though... I heard that CC&C had one awhile back... but I don't think they had it when they were at the RCNA here in winnipeg..

Liverpool: Nicklesguy at one point sold a DVD or zip drive form of his work.. I personally found it very overwhelming.. there's sooo many photos on there.. (I think close to 300) I think if you contact him or look on his ebay web page you might be able to get a hold of the file...

In this day and age I think it's almost necessary to be able to spot a fake..(sad state)
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 Posted 11/14/2014  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liverpool to your friends list
Thank you all for following my story. I have to say it's been a roller coaster and I am feeling a little emotional drained. (you guys can be my therapists)

Here is the rest of the story:
I did hold the coin, earlier in the post I said I saw it through glass. I apologize for this misinformation but with no reading glasses it was hard for me to really examine the coin. It was easier to state at the time I was looking through glass.

I am far from being an expert on coins, I can say however the coin was circulated with everything clearly legible including the date.

I asked my friend to max out the bid at $120.00 Can. Was this a mistake, maybe someday I will find out.

There were in the end two bidders, when my friend maxed out the coin went for $120.00 (my bid had been $110.00) I lost the auction.

I own several Pre Great War Canadian 50 cent pieces. With out the ability to closely examine the coin as far as I could tell I was holding a Canadian 50 cent piece with the date clearly reading 1921.

Fake or Forgery, I can't possibly know. Do I regret not giving my friend a higher number..........yes but that's hind sight. If I could do it again....yes I would have made time to look closer. Earlier in the post I spoke about busy family.... I take this very seriously and trading time with my family for a maybe was not in the cards.

I now pass on my story of a possible encounter with the King of Canadian coins, the 1921 50 cent piece hopefully to the new owner.

New Brunswick is a small place with a small group of collectors. Ask around if you live here. I'd love to know what the coin was.... lovely fake or a Canadian treasure.
Thanks to all for taking the time to read this.
Kindest regards,
Liverpool
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11/14/2014 1:54 pm
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 Posted 11/14/2014  2:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list
It's a pretty cool story.

@liverpool, PM sent.
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 Posted 11/14/2014  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic to your friends list
Gosh, didn't John Madden (USA football coach and commentator) once say, "family is overrated."
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 Posted 11/14/2014  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liverpool to your friends list
chequer: PM received, thank you for the kind words.
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 Posted 11/15/2014  01:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
seriously, there are posters here who in fact did own, and still own one or two 1921 50 CENT coins, all authentic.
I personally sold 2 of the 3 I owned during the last few years. ( one recently in a private deal) Now a friend came up and said: can you get me one in a decent grade?
And there are at least two other members here who DID own one or two until recently.( Edmonton Show)
and P L E A S E, do not ask for pictures, as these are very easy to identify and most owners do not wish to show them...... until ready to sell.
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 Posted 11/15/2014  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
I am speechless 47p7.....

I remember seeing the pics of your nickels and hearing how you have all the Newfie gold coins and variants...and now to hear that you have had and owned more than one '21 50 cent piece.... Amazing...

Now just to be clear when I said "unlikely" I was referring to the fact that a '21 50 cent piece would be in an auction and a professional auctioneer would not realize what they had.... If that piece was truly legit that's an absolute missed opportunity on the auctioneers part for a very decent sized commission .
Furthermore given the limited population of this issue I only assumed that many of the coins could be accounted for...

Course that's only an assumption...

I certainly do apologize if my previous comment was misconstrued in any way to be directed at you as a collector or what you may have in your collection....
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 Posted 11/15/2014  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
one other member here still has at least one, probably 2 knowing him.
They may not be top grades, but, honestly who cares.
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 Posted 11/17/2014  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liverpool to your friends list
chequer: PM sent
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 Posted 11/22/2014  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerry to your friends list
I'd stack it up against my 1913 Canadian Dollar any day..!?!
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