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Valued Member
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Presenting a hypothesis on the 1936 25 cent dot, is what I accomplished here.
What others believe and why they believe what they do, is their freedom of choice.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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DBM, the bar in the 1936 and other 10 and 25 cent coins, is IMO a DC. look at the images below, the DC in different stages. the one on the 30 is very faint, but there. What do you think it is?    Edited by 47P7
11/23/2014 1:30 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I believe dBm was being sarcastic.
Feel free to call me Will.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Absolutely sarcastic---Ebay has +-20 bars--all die progressive die cracks.
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"On 16 November 1936, Edward invited British Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin to Buckingham Palace and expressed his desire to marry Wallis Simpson ... The Prime Ministers of Australia, Canada and South Africa made clear their opposition to the king marrying a divorcee; their Irish counterpart expressed indifference and detachment, while the Prime Minister of New Zealand, having never heard of Simpson before, vacillated in disbelief. Faced with this opposition, Edward at first responded that there were "not many people in Australia" and their opinion did not matter. ... Edward informed Baldwin that he would abdicate if he could not marry Simpson. Baldwin then presented Edward with three choices: give up the idea of marriage; marry against his ministers' wishes; or abdicate ... Edward duly signed the instruments of abdication at Fort Belvedere on 10 December 1936." With all the back and forth between Edward VIII and various prime ministers, parliament, etc, I would guess the decision to abdicate was probably made in early December 1936. The Royal Mint was busy making Edward VIII dies for 1937, and then had to switch gears to George VI. There were already 972,094 25 cent coins minted in 1936, almost double the amounts of previous years. Anybody is free to believe what they want, but I see no reason to doubt the conventional narrative regarding the 1936 dot coins having been minted in 1937. |
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Here are the two paragraphs that come before the two I posted above: "Despite heavy coinage demands on The Royal Mint, most of the master tools required for the various 1937 coinages for both Britain and the Colonies were ready by late 1936. In all tools for more than 200 dies had been prepared. In December 1936, King Edward VIII announced his abdication. All of the artwork and technology that had gone into preparing the obverse dies throughout the year had been in vain. The Royal Mint would have to begin all over again with new sittings for portraits, new models from the portraits and new die-making tools from the models. The obverse dies portraying Edward's younger brother, King George VI, were desperately needed for the beginning of the year, but could not possibly be available for months. As in 1910..." Haxby, J. A., Striking Impressions p. 152 It is only mentioned that the Mint wants to stockpile. It's sometimes hard to tell what's fact and what's just rumour regarding the RCM, as they really like to keep hush-hush about some things. One example: it is mentioned in the appendix that the Mint denies the existence of PL coins. |
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Valued Member
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Mint put together Uncirculated sets starting in 1958, whatever coins stuck for sets that were not used in sets, were put into circulation.
For most years prior to 1958, Dealers/Collectors put the sets together.
Proof Like [PL] is a hobby term. First used as a stand alone grade then as a entire sub-category creating a new product.
These coins are uncirculated coins and should be graded as any other uncirculated coin is, UNC or MS.
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Valued Member
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'His relationship deteriorated with his eldest son Edward (later Edward VIII) when he failed to settle down and had affairs with married women'[source BritRoyals.com]
Quote:‘After I am dead, the boy will ruin himself in twelve months' â€" George V (about his son Edward who became Edward VIII)[source BritRoyals.com]
As we know, George V died in January of 1936 and was very much alive to make the quote.
The Royal family is a family unit first.
How many here, have delayed or know of someone who has delayed telling others within the family and/or outside the family important news?
Topics that might fit are; getting engaged, announcing the decision to marry, having cancer, work promotions, being with child, pay raise, new job, getting a job and on the list goes.
We generally tell and discuss things with those most important first and sorry to be the one to inform, but the general public is the last on the list when it comes to matters of state.
When something is officially announced, is not always the exact moment the decision was made.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Interesting read.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"At least some of the reverse dies for this extraordinary posthumous coinage were marked with a small dot." quote from Haxby leaves open an interpretation that not all of the 1936 coins minted in 1937 had the dot. Just based on that one quote you could get the idea that some of the regular 1936 quarters might actually have been minted in 1937 and put into circulation along with the dots. Not sure how you would be able to tell, or whether it really matters. Just something that struck me from the Haxby info.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Sometimes rumours are just rumours.   |
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Valued Member
Canada
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Still waiting for your answer Pacificoin.
What research do you have that the 1936 25 cent dot is a 1937 issue?
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Pillar of the Community
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If you think I am getting drawn into this mess Dean, you are mistaken. Just how many theories do you have on the " Kennedy Assassination anyways? " Let me see were there 3 dots or 4 dots or six shots or whatever!  ! |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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what's the point of all this? can we just agree that the dot issues were after the death of George the fifth and move on?
Feel free to call me Will.
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Pillar of the Community
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yup could not agree more.
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