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Guess The Grade 1889-S Morgan Dollar

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 Posted 11/19/2014  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
I'll guess they had it at 62. Just a hunch.
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 Posted 11/19/2014  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Check RK55's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add RK55 to your friends list
I vote MS65, shot at 66
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 Posted 11/19/2014  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
I was thinking either MS-60 or MS-68, but you don't options for those
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 Posted 11/20/2014  01:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jardins to your friends list
I'm thinking maybe MS-64 to 66 but I guessed MS-62 since they usually find something wrong that I can't see or missed.
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 Posted 11/20/2014  05:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I'm in agreement with zxcccxz MS65 maybe even MS66 but lighting and the photo small size will play a big part in my grade when guessing rom photos, I can see this coin anywhere from MS63 to MS66 with these photos.
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 Posted 11/20/2014  07:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cash555 to your friends list
I went with MS-64.
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 Posted 11/21/2014  03:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arael to your friends list
I'm guessing 66 just because of the stunning detail on the reverse.
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 Posted 11/21/2014  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list
I'll post what the actual grade is on Monday.
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 Posted 11/23/2014  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list
I changed my mind. Here is the grade of the coin MS-63 with a green CAC sticker. Both of which are seriously wrong. This piece is a virtual match to the 1903 PCGS MS-66 CAC I bought from the same nationally known dealer. CAC should have put a gold sticker on the coin. I am very seriously thinking of cracking it out and resubmitting it raw since both NGC and PCGS will only bump up a coin's grade one point if sent in for a regrade.

The dealer, in my opinion, could have priced this coin much higher than he did based on the coin and not what was on the label. An 1889-S Morgan dollar in MS-65 is worth over $2,000.00 and I got it for not much more than MS-63 money.
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 Posted 11/23/2014  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OLCoins to your friends list
The pictures seem a little soft so I'll bet there are truly more marks on the face than it appears . I'll go 64.
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 Posted 11/23/2014  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
MS-64 is fair for this coin. I'm not seeing MS-65 or 66
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 Posted 11/24/2014  05:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorganGrader to your friends list
Very nice 63. 64 would be fair. It wouldn't go higher since it looks dipped and stripped, then retoned. The luster appears exceptionally weak. A 65 or 66 Morgan will have great luster.
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 Posted 11/29/2014  01:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BluegrassRiver to your friends list
A flat two dimensional picture makes it so hard to grade. I guessed MS 63 in the poll. Without being able to move the coin at different angles we are handicapped as a grader. The comment about the luster is so right on.
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 Posted 11/29/2014  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list
For those of you who "think" you know what luster looks like it is extremely difficult to capture it in a photograph on every coin. The following is the description of the coin by a nationally known and well respected coin dealer. I have purchased several coins from him and all met or exceeded my expectations upon receiving each piece.


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The comment about the luster is so right on.
The comment about the luster is so right OFF. If this coin were dipped, stripped, then re-toned NGC would have given this coin a details grade.

Bold Luster, Under graded, Pristine NGC Fatty Holder. A special offering as this Morgan is well under graded and housed in a pristine old NGC fatty holder and approved by CAC. This is an eye catching dollar with creamy centers that migrate to gold/red/blues at the rims. My images are unable to capture the "in hand" beauty of this piece.

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 Posted 11/29/2014  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Membership got this one right, as did the dealer. Deliciously undergraded at 63. Before you crack, though, have a look at Russ' experience here:

https://goccf.com/t/190196#1771094
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