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1968 Penny With Brockerage?

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 Posted 11/20/2014  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
The damage on the right rim.
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 Posted 11/20/2014  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darryldarryl to your friends list
PMD !
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 Posted 11/20/2014  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
The fact that it is low grade. An error this spectacular would have been taken out of circulation long before it got to this point. As John said the damage on the rim is troubling. There is always the certification option to make absolutely sure.
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 Posted 11/20/2014  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scissel to your friends list
The flattening on the obverse suggests that the coin was not in a coin press when it was impressed on the reverse. So, PMD
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 Posted 11/20/2014  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ace_ftw to your friends list
OK, thanks I will toss this one back, hopefully the next one is a keeper!
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 Posted 11/20/2014  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rottnrog to your friends list
vise job !!
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 Posted 11/20/2014  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scissel to your friends list

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I will toss this one back...


Yeah. ARP it!
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 Posted 11/20/2014  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vancouver IslandCoinKid to your friends list
have any of you ever used a quality Record vice, I don't mean to be rude, but you might want to rethink if it is a PMD. A vice would leave quite a bit of small checkering, or other repetitive marks. this coin does not seem to have any.

In addition, how could you use a vice if you wanted to make this into a Brockage, or even a partial clip. I think that the marks are from the actual mints press and die.

I may be wrong, but before you toss it, just wait on it and still put a 2x2 and use it as a conversation piece.
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 Posted 11/20/2014  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fixguy to your friends list
I'd hang on to it. Even just as an example. What did it cost you? lol
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 Posted 11/21/2014  12:25 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
You would use a flat plate to keep the Record vise marks off. Machine shop grade 8.
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 Posted 11/21/2014  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
pacific,
how would you know?
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 Posted 11/21/2014  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Scavenger to your friends list
No care was taken to hide it from being PMD. I think it was 2 coins on a bench with a hammer 2 hits.
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 Posted 11/21/2014  11:00 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
You can clearly see where the last A of CANADA (mirror image in the coin that was being pressed into this one) has been pushed down into the rim. Look just to the right and down of the designer's initials. I don't care what kind of crazy set-up could be between the dies - there is no collar die ever made, that would impart an incuse design on the rim.

Keep it, toss it away, do whatever you want with it - but it is only a conversation piece created by pressing one coin into another, nothing more. You don't need a vise to do this, a good whack with a heavy construction hammer could easily re-create this - I know, because in learning errors, I did all kinds of things to coins to understand the difference in post-mint damage and errors struck at the mint with hydraulic presses.
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 Posted 11/21/2014  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
Sorry just had too..lol

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 Posted 11/23/2014  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vancouver IslandCoinKid to your friends list
SPP were you always a Moderator? congrats if that is new...

for the coin, you may be right, I will try and recreate this in the week coming up...
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