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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Barry's a good one to listen to, Thaph. An honest voice with no agenda. He didn't have to mention that he made a mistake but did so willingly, on his own volition, because he wanted to help you. His healthy ego and natural level of integrity wouldn't allow him to make excuses that would mitigate his error in judgment like many of us might have done in a similar situation. When someone does something like that for a simple stranger, it tells you this individual is trustworthy, and that's a quality that's worth more than man's weight in silver and gold.
And don't buy into the "mine's are losing money so silver can't stay this low" excuse, for a lot of reasons, but the best one is the simplest and easiest to wrap one's head around: most mines don't mine for silver at all. Odd, right? So how does is it get out of the ground, one might ask? Well, as a by-product of what the miners are really after, like copper, tungsten, lead, zinc, and gold, among other metals. All of these metals would also have to fall below the level of being unprofitable to mine long before anyone worried about how low silver prices had reached.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2019 Posts |
Quote: Why buy it when you can pull silver coin from the ground for free? I've found HUNDREDS! Maybe so but how much fuel does your vehicle use to travel to your "dig sites" plus when you pull it out of the ground its all dirty and worn, I can just sit at home and order nice shiny new silver stuffs and not have to even start my car. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Interpret whats being said here for yourself! I would be careful of buying in bulk quantity for a while, as a collector I don't mine buying few ounces to add to my collection, and if you are looking to make a quick buck. Silver bullion may not be good as an investment now.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4333 Posts |
Quote: Maybe so but how much fuel does your vehicle use to travel to your "dig sites" plus when you pull it out of the ground its all dirty and worn, I can just sit at home and order nice shiny new silver stuffs and not have to even start my car. You're right! How exciting!
When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors... Roll hunting since '77 Dirt fishing since '72
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2130 Posts |
What would you guys consider "Bulk Quantity"? I have often wondered this? 10, 20, 50, 100 ounces? I may buy 5-10 ounces a month but I do not consider myself buying in bulk quantity. I'm really curious to see others response to what buying in "bulk quantity" means to them.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5818 Posts |
Quote: What would you guys consider "Bulk Quantity"? I think this depends on individual collector/stacker, my opinion and only me is that anywhere 25 ounces and above per month would be high, but I would purchase a numismatic coin that value as much as 25 ounces of silver or more where I see fit.
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Valued Member
United States
58 Posts |
Adding a little silver to your portfolio wouldn't be a bad move. Much better to enter now than when it was $30-$35 an ounce. I would stick with pre-64 US currency as it will always carry a premium over silver rounds.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3049 Posts |
Do I buy silver... yes.. but only stuff I like... and mostly numi stuff.. not bullion.
Would I recommend silver... no.. find something else right now... for investment purposes I'm a big fan of the ETF's that follow an index .. something similar to VOO has treated me well...
If it's for something to gain in VALUE that is still tangible.... I would say look at something that appeals to your eye that they just don't make anymore. (On that note I have always liked solid wood antique furniture.. specifically chairs... stained glass windows and I'm starting to look into paintings with western landscape themes)
Not saying THATs what YOU should do.. in fact I personally would prefer you didn't... but it has served me well in the past few years.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1454 Posts |
50oz @ let's say $16-18 per oz. = bulk purchase, IMO :)
Guess it's relative. I remember guys regularly buying 500oz monster boxes of AG when prices were nearing $40 and thinking nothing of it. I'd been regularly collecting for a few years before the boom, purchasing maybe 200oz a year, and people who had never purchased much more than a silver dime or quarter were catching up to, and passing me in a matter of months. Those were the heady days of PMs when metals were hitting new highs seemingly every week with nary an end in sight.
Besides Barry, most of those guys are long gone now. Some were banned but I think most simply faded back into obscurity, whether from boredom, embarrassment, or lack of time, I'm uncertain. I be interested to know if they maintained their quickly gathered largess or sold out when things turned ever bleaker for these would-be silver barons. Who knows? They aren't around to ask.
I know I kept what I collected. Every ounce of it. I was quite proud to finally join the 1k silver club and didn't want to risk falling back under that number for fear I'd spend my profits on something less material than cold, hard cash and more fugacious like a trip to Tahiti. Nothing wrong with either choice, mind you, but each has it's drawbacks. Look at the historic spot chart for AG. See where it rested for many decades, through multiple recessions and periods of uncertainty, and ask yourself if you believe the metal will buck the trend and rise to new heights, or fall back into the comfortable and well-established rut where it remained for so many years with hardly a measurable uptick.
I consider making a substantial investment in PMs a risky proposition, myself. Perhaps if you wait until it truly bottoms out, and then don't mind buying and holding for what might possibly be a period of decades, then I don't see much risk in such a decision, other than having a lot of money tied into a venture that might not have much potential for growth.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3049 Posts |
What some people don't understand is that if an asset drops by 50% it would have to gain by 100% afterwards just for you to break even...
eg. ABX sells for $10.... drops 50% and now sells for $5... for you to break even .. ABX would HAVE to have 100% gains to go from $5 to $10 again!
For me.. I have my numi silver.. and then stock silver... stock silver is simply just hunks of metal... I don't care the design, date anything... get it as close to spot (if not below) as possible..
I rode that wave and was excited almost every day a few years back as silver seemed like it was on a true "moonshot".. yes it was fun.. and too easy to make money.. hence why a whole lot of "baboons" on the net with their "snake oil" sales on how to make money with silver....
Belief that what goes down... must come up... well I'll let you ponder that one for a second.....
Did I loose some money when silver has spiraled down... yes.. and I have still bought silver.. but I also look at the money I SAVED by selling my "stock"
(For the record I will still buy up estate and silver coins for BV .. pick the ones I want out of the pile and try to sell the rest before silver drops too fast..... sometimes it's worked out okay... sometimes I have taken a loss.... and sometimes I have been left holding a large bag of coins... )
Currently.. I'm sitting with liquid assets waiting for a good entry point for the funds that are allocated towards PM's... is now that point... we'll see... 15's have been tested twice now and both times there has been a bounce.. that's promising... but until I see "smart money" move back into PM's.. I'm not going to follow....
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21786 Posts |
Now is the gloomiest time to buy silver. THAT is the reason why you should buy. Greatest upside potential. "Buy in gloom, sell in doom"! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1192 Posts |
I hate to say it but I like it low, but I like collecting silver coins not investing in the silver content. I can definitely afford more coins for my sets now.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3789 Posts |
I understand and hear that all the time what @sel_69l... even the great Sir John Templeton used to say "buy when there is blood in the streets".
But this is the thing...
1- is what one is buying, is it going to come back?
2- how much blood in the streets is enough to where the blood is flowing that the purchase is down in a reasonable area minimizing risk...
If anything, I heard folks saying this "buy when theres blood in the streets" for a long time with gold and silver, and it has continued to drip lower. Averaging down doesn't work and buying a declining asset, doubling down, is a death trap for one's money.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
5391 Posts |
Silver ................no real reason to hold any if you think about. That said I do have lots stacked aside, fully paid for and forgotten about. A prediction for what it is worth.............US dollar rise of 8-12 per cent from these levels over the next 6-9 months and GOLD and SILVER back to the levels of early 2008 ie silver under $10 an ounce and gold at 750-800.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3692 Posts |
I think people buy silver for greed due to the wild volatility. If you're level-headed then gold makes more sense but others will disagree. I never overdid it when I bought metals. You have to know the reason why you want a shiny metal anyways. Just to make money? Get some goals first; when I hear this question I just have more questions than the original poster. Why silver, why not zinc? At present you can't lose with pennies, and nickels are very close to their metal value, but you still can't melt them.
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