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Store Coins In Wood Desk?

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 Posted 01/06/2015  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
I would not store any coins inside wood....regardless of secondary protection. Wood outgasses and absorbs/holds moisture.
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 Posted 01/06/2015  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
As mostly already stated wood in any form is not a great place to store anything metal. All woods dry slowly and some more so than others. Ever go to a lumber yard and note the wet feeling of some of the woods. Wood too will absorb moisture unless well covered with something like Varnish. However, the downside of that is that Varnish too emits gasses as it dries. And for how long, depends on location, temperature, etc.
Different woods too emit different types of gasses as they dry.
All in all it is just not to smart to trust wood for storing coins.
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 Posted 01/06/2015  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list
The only two woods safe for Coins are Hondurus Mahogany and Ebony. Particle board and any form of Oak are death for coins!!
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 Posted 01/06/2015  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Neo13x to your friends list

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The only two woods safe for Coins are Hondurus Mahogany and Ebony.


Is there some place to find information confirming this is true? I know the US mint ships the gold Kennedy in a Mahogany case so I would assume it to be safe.

Knowing that leaving coins exposed to the environment can be bad, wood can and will absorb moisture, plastics can contain PVC and metal will rust then aluminum must be the best material to use when storing coins. Is there a better alternative?
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 Posted 01/06/2015  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list
I remember reading somewhere that wrapping a silver coin with aluminium foil can stop it tarnishing. I have no idea if it does or doesn't. Pure aluminium is more reactive than silver, but aluminium's (any aluminium that has been exposed to air) already got a protective oxide layer to stop it from reacting anymore. So according to my line of thinking, it would be the same as wrapping it with nothing.
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 Posted 01/06/2015  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Is there a better alternative?


Cardboard/mylar flips and food-grade ziplock baggies with the air pushed out of them before sealing. I'd hold silver near a volcanic vent, in a baggie.
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 Posted 01/06/2015  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AcesKings to your friends list
I've kept my collection in a wooden Machinist's chest since the late '80s and haven't had problems with toning. I have always kept them in either 2X2 flips or plastic snap tight holders. The only time I did have a problem was when I left it out and somebody spilled something on it. The coins in the area of the spill developed a mold residue till I noticed the problem. Aside from that, all my coins are still as I purchased them, including proof mint products.
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 Posted 01/06/2015  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Welcome to Coin Community, AcesKings. Your experience is unsurprising. Well-cured and constructed wood is as safe a storage location as any, subject only to what it allows in through the lid. We could lose track of that fact when discussing extreme cases as we are here.
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 Posted 01/06/2015  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Silver Searcher to your friends list
AcesKings!

Thanks for the input, everyone. I am now looking into other ways to store my collection.
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 Posted 01/06/2015  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
The Royal Australian Mint and the Perth Mint use Jarrah timber for the display cases, for their top end proof coins.
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 Posted 01/06/2015  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Krusti-Koin to your friends list
I eased my worries by keeping my coins in an antique coin cabinet that I fitted to accept slabs. The wood and finish are at least 80 years old. I have to believe its days of out-gassing have long passed.
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 Posted 01/06/2015  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AcesKings to your friends list
Thank you all for the welcome!

I can't say exactly how old my chest is, but would guess about 50 years if not more. The original poster said his desk was from around the 80s, so I would think any oils, vapors, etc. would be dispersed by now, and shouldn't cause any problems. I would agree with everyone here that newer wood items, or recently stained, or lacquered wood would cause problems, but with a desk of 25+ years this shouldn't be the case. Adding a desiccant in the drawers being used would help insure protection against any damage.
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 Posted 01/06/2015  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Exactly. I'm partial to old cigar boxes too, after testing with a sacrificial coin.
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 Posted 01/07/2015  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list
Oak whether seasoned or not is corrosive. It out gases fumes that corrode many metals. I know from experience: a set of lead soldiers stored in a Cutler Roll top desk.
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 Posted 01/07/2015  04:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Krusti-Koin to your friends list
I did some research on this, and my findings agree with austrokiwi's comments. This is an excerpt:

"Oak and chestnut are extremely damaging woods and should never be used for storage furniture. True mahogany, walnut, and spruce are among the least acidic woods."

That said, I would think that coins that are slabbed are adequately protected, even though not 100% airtight, but that is just an opinion.

I read an interesting piece on the subject of coin corrosion regarding the general environment in which they are stored. The writer commented that he does not buy MS-Red coppers because he lives near the seashore. He believed that the climate was not friendly to coins. I live by the ocean myself, and am quite aware of the dampness and salt that is constantly present. So in addition to the choice of storage material, the climate where we live may also be a contributing factor in regards to corrosion.
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