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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Ragged clip..Ragged roll end. IMO
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Forum Kid
Canada
1074 Posts |
It does look like a clip however almost as if it was filled in again.
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Pillar of the Community
New Zealand
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What if its a Planchet flaw that caused a Blakesly effect clipping the edge ?
Cheers Don
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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 with fourmack, that would make sense for the outcome to be this way. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1049 Posts |
I thought this 1979 I have is similar, it shows signs of 2 clips and a planchet flaw and on the reverse it's a pronounced wire rim in the flaw area.  |
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
1018 Posts |
When I first found this penny roll hunting in the summer I saw the reverse and thought it was an incomplete planchet or struck through, but it had an almost intact rim. Upon flipping it over I thought I had found a double clip, but can you have clips so close together. The obverse rim piece between the so called clips has faint traces of the beads above it. Is Blakesly effect only caused by a clipped planchet?  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1049 Posts |
I recently dealt this coin to VICK, it's a triple clip, you can see how close they can be. Your question about the Blakesly effect, I know someone will chime in to answer that, perhaps SPP. here's the link to the trip clip, https://goccf.com/t/190242 |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1018 Posts |
Yes that is alot of clips on that 1985, to bad it wasn't a pointed 5.
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Valued Member
Canada
270 Posts |
Foreign object on the die head possibly? Maybe a previous planchet was broken, then struck onto the next coin? That would seriously flaw one side, but only bend the reverse appearing to be clipped...any thoughts?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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If there was something on one of the dies, the other side of the coin will be well-struck. There shouldn't be any bending of the coin. Also, the more obstruction there is on the die face, the stronger the rims and unobstructed devices will be. Doesn't look like it's the case with this coin.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1018 Posts |
Thanks to all who have posted an opinion so far, I am more perplexed than ever now  . It seems I may have a unique coin. I have looked at both sides of the coin now more than any other I have. I need a break, off to play poker online. Thanks again. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The damage was there before it ever got near the striking chamber in fact the Blakesly effect you see is from the upsetting mill not the die. IMO
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Moderator
 Canada
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I see three things here:
- the planchet was flawed prior to the rolling mill, the dovetailing of the rims shows that
- the rolling mill (which creates the rim) probably caused a partial lamination, a weaker spot at the edge of the coin would create a small Blakesley Effect
- the coin was then struck, and the lamination detached itself sometime after the coin was struck, the weak spot on the rim was subjected to post-mint damage, possibly from rolling machines
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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lamination detached itself sometime after the coin was struck, That would be the Key move..  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1018 Posts |
No at this point I no longer have a digital scale available so I haven't weighed this coin. So this is a flawed planchet creating a blakesly effect and a subsequent delamination after striking.
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