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Quote: Good luck on your large cent collection! It's been one of the most difficult sets I've ever attempted, with all the different varieties, not to mention the early rarities. I'll second that. I've got Grellman's book that ONLY covers Braided Hair large cents (1840-1857). How does the number 300+ varieties grab you?
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I believe Noyes has a large volume of books out that is a bit pricey but very informative. Like Kanga, I too only have Grellman's book that covers only the late date large cents. There is a lot of online information that allows me to attribute the early dates without a reference.
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Thanks this book looks amazing I am going to purchase one for sure.
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Quote: How does the number 300+ varieties grab you?
Not bad, from the standpoint of one who's chasing the 5000+ known VAMs, with probably half left to be discovered.  Imagine trying to do that with Lincolns.  Redcentcollector, to give you an idea of how seminal Sheldon was to numismatics, he invented the grading scale you're going to use to grade his varieties.
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I use Sheldon for the early years, then Wright for 1816-1839, and Grellman for the late dates. In my opinion determining the later date varieties is quite difficult because of the progress made with the mint equipment.
Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith
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Valued Member
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Cool stuff can't wait to pick up a copy of that book.
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Quote: Redcentcollector, to give you an idea of how seminal Sheldon was to numismatics, he invented the grading scale you're going to use to grade his varieties. No he didn't. He developed a pricing guide to go along with the grading standards that were already in place. The pricing guide failed soon afterward. In the 1960's and early 70's the EAC community tried several times to "fix" it before finally dumping it in 1972. In 1978 the ANA stuck the old Sheldon pricing levels onto the grading standards they were writing. The numbers have no meaning, they are just "names" for the grades. Word of warning about the Breen early date book. There are four photo errors in the book so four of the varieties are not pictured.
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Then somebody else came up with that 70 number. Yes, Conder, I get that you're factually correct (I've never seen you not) but we call it the Sheldon Scale and it wasn't named for Grellman. 
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Conder101 you are only partially correct. Sheldon did create a numerative scale that was originally based on value but later based his numerical scale on condition. I refer to "Table 1. A Quantitative Scale For Condition" page 41 of Penny Whimsy 1976 edition.
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Quite frankly, you cannot buy a book - or any number of them - of value equal to the concentrated knowledge available at a place like Coin Community. You can't post a coin or a variety here which someone can't identify. People like Conder, Coop, Mike Diamond and others - numismatic scholars of the highest order - freely share their knowledge here. All you need is pics and we can teach you to do that too. 
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The Noyes book set is amazing, but really expensive! I have all 6 volumes, would set you back around $1.5K to get them all new from their exclusive dealer Charles Davis. The Breen encyclopedia is great too, I use that one a lot. You should also have Sheldon's second book Penny Whimsy as well.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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Valued Member
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To expensive for my blood (For books I mean) I will go with one that was 1st mentioned.
Edited by redcentcollector 03/15/2015 01:18 am
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"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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