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Pillar of the Community
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Nice! Was this one listed or are you destined for another attribution?  |
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I would keep this one. Most of the time the clash marks are already polished off.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks guys! It was a fun find!
I can't seem to find a 1999D listed only 1999. If you get a chance, take a look and let me know if I'm overlooking it. Otherwise I'll send this one in!
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Pillar of the Community
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I don't see one listed either. Good luck on the submission!!
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This one I would keep for sure. Very nice. |
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Why would you "list" die clashes? I would assume that all or almost all dies clash at some point in their lives, some multiple times. And since clash marks "fade" on their own during use even if they aren't deliberately polished away, one set of clashes could appear like many other sets.
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I don't think there would be a market for this?
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However, a quick search shows that some people are willing to pay a premium. Some people pay a premium for colorized coins. I'm going to go ahead and guess that a significant percentage of Morgan dies - maybe as many as half, from the commonality of clashed examples - clashed during their lifetimes. That's probably a high rate by comparison to some, but I defy anyone here to name a US issue which does not have clashed examples. It is a dangerous endeavor to "list" clashed dies. The existence of a "list" implies added value as opposed to just added interest, making those less-knowledgeable believe they're getting something worth paying extra for. That is not the case, and I refuse to teach anything remotely like that here. I'm getting 500 Errors from their site, and can't access it. Do they at least make an attempt to differentiate clashes by die pair? By definition, one die clash should look very much like the next, and attempting to publicize them without drilling down to individual die pairs is just plain snake oil. |
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Is a die clash error that much differnt than a DDO or DDR or RPM? Ultimately, it boils down to the same thing; things on the coin that don't belong. I don't know the answer, just presenting a question. To be honest, I learned about the maddieclashes website from the folks on this forum. I believe the guy who heads it up is connected to varietyvista/coneca? Edited by Agrippa
04/21/2015 6:22 pm
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A die clash is an event during the dies life. A RPM/DDO / DDR are on the die itself from coin number one untill retirement. The event of a clash is most of the time polished off and later on it clashes again and again. |
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Just thought I'd address the post about there being no market for these clashes. Here is the most recent sale on the bay for a similar coin with a different date. Pretty good money for a coin that can be found in circulation. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ERROR-1984-...em4636b2d1ee |
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Any way you cut it, Agrippa, you found yourself a nice coin.
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Just thought I'd address the post about there being no market for these clashes. Doesn't mean there's a market amongst knowledgeable numismatists like coop. That said, I could see a complete date/MM set of clashed examples being a reasonable goal for a collector. And the guy who bought that coin bids almost exclusively in the Error category. Maybe that's what he's up to, and I hope he reaches his goal if it is. It's very likely doable - clashing is that common. I just don't want any newer collector reading this and thinking there is some inherent value in a clashed die like there would be a hub-doubled coin or similar. These are in the same class as greasers or strikethroughs - random Mint events not connected to any specific issue, and as likely to be found in any issue. And that's my problem with listing sites like maddieclashes. By all means, list them, but when you're done you're going to have one of everything and multiples of most. What's "added value" about that? And in the meantime, less-knowledgeable collectors are going to think there's something special about them. |
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