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Moderator
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Seems a little shady to me.
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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Have you alerted the seller (Lucernae).
I had a similar problem once with the seller"Zuzim"( still a great dealer); Ihad bought a nice Constantius II Siliqua, only to be given a refund because it had been sold earlier.:(
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't see any problem with his marketing strategy. In fact, I think it is very astute of him/her in a tough market to be so creative and proactive
No different than offering a used car for 10k cash or ZERO down with payments. Once an offer is accepted the other listings are ended.
Edited by Biancasdad
05/10/2015 12:23 am
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United States
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Valued Member
United States
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Also, while people throw, rare, very rare, extremely rare, around I prefer to refer to the coins available in the market of that I.D; this one does not even rate scarce.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I posted my response after the question was moved to a separate thread. Lucernae lists on separate ebay sites. You will note that some listings are in dollars while others are in euros. When the euro began its recent decline Lucernae stopped listing in euros and focused on dollars and pounds. The dual listings you see are the result of your search giving you all the listings available. There is nothing 'cheesy' about the practice. Many European auctions have been showing less than stellar sales figures lately. Hence my recent acquisition of two excellent Folli for a mere $76. The lovely green coin in question is a rare type. From experience I have found reasonable offers usually are accepted. You won't be able to steal the coin. But you might buy it ! Edited by FVRIVS RVFVS
05/10/2015 3:34 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It's also very common for sellers, including highly regarded ones, to put coins at Buy It Now on ebay and the like and to also list it on their website. Additionally if they have a physical store it could be on display there as well. I've only had it happen once where I bought something that wasn't actually available anymore but it's just the reality of how many places sellers have to get visibility for their coins to stay in business. It's tough when it bites you but it's just part of the business and doesn't upset me anymore. I'll say this though, if a seller on ebay also operates a website you can often save a bit of money by going to their website and finding the coin. It's often listed cheaper there. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Lucernae is a large volume seller who is also to be found on Vcoins ! My sales are on ebay USA. If I chose to list things also on ebay Spain you would find my 'stuff' double listed (dollars & euros). |
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I don't know. I see two different listings, two different Item Numbers, but same site ( ebay), with two different prices (A$227.76 and A$198.73), but only one coin. Edited by Topcat7
05/10/2015 5:12 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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When I look I see US dollars and euros. When you look you see Australian dollars. Curious how technology works isn't it ? If you try to click on one of the two 'send seller a message' icons you will end up either ebay Spain or US. The listing page is being automatically translated when you bring it up. Edited by FVRIVS RVFVS
05/10/2015 5:28 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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You see two different item numbers because it is two different listings. One is listed in USD and the other is listed in Euro. The coin is the same in both listings. The difference in price is because one is the exchange from USD to AUD and the other is Euro to AUD which are both very different exchange rates. It also isn't the same website, one is ebay.com and the other is most likely ebay.es. Since you are in Australia and are searching on ebay.com.au and most likely searching with the worldwide option on you see both listings. It is a common thing to do because it gets more eyes on the coin. If the coin sells he will remove the other listing. I have bought coins on the weekend before that sold while the dealer was at a show the same weekend. It happens. |
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I hear you, but I don't like it. I was born many years B.C. (before computers) and all of my deals were done on a 'handshake' and you could see what they were from a distance. Any way that you look at it the Americans are being charged (approx.) A$30 MORE than the Europeans and that can't be right! 'Sneaky' is a word that comes to mind. One seller has two listings for one coin, another seller has four listings for one coin. Where does it end? Eventually we will have a 'million' listings for ten coins that we can't find, and if we do, we will have to spend a week working out which ebay site to buy from that will give us the best 'break' on the exchange rate for that day. Sort of takes the enjoyment out of itall, doesn't it? |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You only see the multiples because you are searching for ALL of his listings. If you stick to one ebay site you will only see one listing. The euro took a dive recently. Do you expect a seller to correct the prices every few days to reflect the days exchange rate ? The listings you are seeing have been up for weeks if not months. You are allowed to make an offer which the seller may accept or decline. Auction sales have been very uneven for ancients. Dealers can't sell everything at cost or less. By accepting offers a dealer is able to get some insurance. I love stealing nice coins at auction ! But sellers will only put up with my antics for so long. Everyone needs to eat ! BTW. TC All your purchases have been in Austrslian dollars. If the A dollar doubled in value against the euro the prices you see would fall by 1/2. You would have little to feel bad about. Our Russian friends are not buying much these days are they ? Now they have something to be irritated about ! The price in rubles is double ! Edited by FVRIVS RVFVS
05/10/2015 8:22 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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As FR said you can't predict the exchange rate. When he posted them they may have been the same. This doesn't take the enjoyment out of it either. Half of the fun in collecting ancients is the hunt for the ideal coin for your collection and the things you learn along the way. If I came across this I would be pretty pumped if it was a coin I was considering buying. Also, to be fair "before computers" you wouldn't have access to probably 99% of the coins you can now view if even any at all in Australia. It isn't sneaky to get as many eyes on your coin as possible. It is good business and good marketing. This also benefits those who do their research and find a better price. You shop around looking for the best price on a new car, why not a coin? Antonio is one of the best, and kindest sellers I have ever encountered on ebay. |
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United States
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My very last comment .......
We all make mistakes. Recently I received one of those "an item you have been watching has been relisted" messages.
So I took a looksy. A Spanish legionary AE of Augustus.
I guess it didn't overwhelm me the first time around.
I was too lazy to stop and read the item description !
Title
Colonia Patricia AE Dupondius
Description
33mm 23.61 grams
Jumpin Jesus how did I miss that ! That ain't no typo ! And that ain't no dupondius at 33mm either !
Ask Price $75
Out of curiosity I checked my watch list and saw that the week before the ask price had actually been less.
So I offered less and to my delight the offer was accepted.
I hope to wow you this week when my "ship comes in".
If I said it had only a little "potential" I would be lying.
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