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The eyebrow hits caught my eye... PCGS would call this one MS-64, ICCS, well as Jack says... could be MS-64/5, depending how much coffee was being brewed on Yonge Street...
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Nice coin SilverDon..  MS-65 |
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very well said pacificcoin and spp-ottawa, I would have to agree. my grade was more what I thought ICCS would say by the nice fields since I understand they go by clean fields as a big factor.
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Really good response to this coin, thanks to all commenters. Coffee must have been percolating that day at ICCS; bragging rights go to tripoli, thedollarman, honorable mention to doubleeagle59. ICCS graded this coin MS-66;  Surprise Pokermandude, and it must have been a four second look on a Friday afternoon Pacificoin. Thanks for playing.  What do you think I paid? Bonus points. |
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Depends on who you bought it from,
so I'll say $45.00
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$5+$5+$5+$5+$5+$5+$5+$5+$5+$5+$5=$55?
Feel free to call me Will.
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05/20/2015 12:38 pm
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This is a really great example of why we get coins graded. Also an excellent example of how opinions can and do differ .Here we had a very small range of grades from 64 to 66 with explanations as to how we arrived at the conclusion. The OP of this coin picked a really great example to look at. I do agree with Roger on this though.PCGS would see this coin quite a bit different than my coffee buddies on Yonge Street. Please do not get me wrong I am and continue to support ICCS in a big way. This coin is just a wonderful lesson in technical grading as opposed to the methodology employed by U.S. TPG s. At ICCS marks in the field are extremely important and this 68 has very few. That said the way I and a few others would see it those very few are in a focal spot and just not quite up to snuff to make a solid 66. |
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All good Pacificoin, agree with you on the inconsistencies in opinions.
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05/20/2015 1:49 pm
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If you concentrate on the flaws, that's all you will see. Like choosing not to hear the record scratches for those that hear the music instead. It's a very nice coin with eye appeal which helps it get a MS 66 even though it has issues.
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And to add, everyone is grading on a computer screen so to one person's eye it looks MS64 to another it looks MS66 But as all know, one has to have the coin in hand to be more accurate.  |
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Personally (and with the caveat of not seeing the coin in hand), I still think you bought a MS-65ish coin in a MS-66 holder... I have been disappointed a few times with ICCS, when buying MS-66 small cents and nickel dollars. The moral of the story here is learn how to grade yourself, so that one can select the coins that are the best possible for the grade. ( Who know, maybe in hand, maybe the cartwheel lustre is phenomenal...)
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Have to agree with Shafta9a on the ability to grade accurately from photos.
Coin in hand has great eye appeal. Actually, I am impressed with the accuracy
of the grades provided, given two layers of plastic and a cell phone pic.
It may appear to some as a generous grade, to others bang on.
Oh yea ... $28
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05/20/2015 5:20 pm
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Because US coins have a higher relief than our Canadian coins, PCGS puts more emphasis on the high points of a coin and less importance on the fields. Whereas ICCS is the opposite of the above. It took me awhile to figure this out, but I think it makes sense and helps to explain the difference in their grading philosophies. |
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Personally (and with the caveat of not seeing the coin in hand), I still think you bought a MS-65ish coin in a MS-66 holder I'll second what SPP said. |
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It's a very flashy MS-65. ICCS may have called it a 66, but the field mark is a disqualifier.
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