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 Posted 10/09/2005  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Becky to your friends list
I'm going to wait and see. I know it's not a beautiful woman in flowing robes like most of us would like to seebut it looks like we are stuck with Jefferson, and this portrait looks interesting.....
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 Posted 10/10/2005  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by knowtracks

I know that you are a "high end" dealer & would never handle the modern circulating coins us peon's are subject to.


While I DO NOT deal in the modern coins, I do spend the MAJORITY of my time and effort assisting the collector that you call "PEON". And for the record, I have sold "MANY" modern coins to quite a few forum members just for the asking at $1 over my ACTUAL cost. I do not participate in this forum because it makes me money. I do not even promote my firm "publicly" on this forum.
I participate on this forum to "help" those who you call "peon" simply because I LOVE this hobby, and hate to see people get caught up in STUPID hype. Now you can choose to listen to my advice or not, and that is your choice.


quote:
But it still looks to me like this coin is going to be a 1 year design. "Hype" or no.


And? Yes it is a 1 year type coin. That DOES NOT make it rare, nor valuable. I have a few thousand sitting here in a change box at my desk. If you believe this series to be rare, "buy" all you want. Prove me wrong.
Just because there are enough "people" spending TOO MUCH on their coins, does not change the simple fact. This is NOT RARE, and WILL NOT hold any Numismatic value for the long haul.

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 Posted 10/10/2005  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add choreboy1 to your friends list
Greetings, numismatists!

For the purpose of this forum, I am the choreboy, but my friends call me Jamie. I enjoyed reading your thoughts on the '06 nickel obverse. Perhaps this bit of information might be of interest . . .

The design was developed under some guiding principles. First and foremost was a desire to look at American artists for insiration. As you all know, the work of French artist Jean Antoine Houdon was greatly admired by Felix Schlag and Joe Fitzgerald. This design was inspired by the artistry of Rembrandt Peale. The interpretation may not be perfect, but it is 100% American.

The desire to make the coin "face the nation" was another goal. I am a big fan of Glenna Goodacre and really admire what she did with her thoughtful portrait of Sacagewea. I am quite confident that Donna Weaver will do an outstanding job with her sculpt of this design. I too am curious to see how it strikes in business, satin and proof. Time will certainly tell.

Much has been made of the expression of this design in the national media. In troubling times, I hope an expression of "optimism" will be welcome for Americans. Lord knows we've had plenty of hardship lately. A smile, even a small one, will hopefully be welcome in the years to come.

The general concensus of your thread voices concern and displeasure over this design. God bless America -- a great country where people can voice (and post) their thoughts openly. This kind of free discourse is one of the many reasons why I am so gosh-darned proud to be an American.

Your opinions matter to me. I read the postings on several forums and have had communications with many people in coin clubs and numismatic groups. I subscribe to the trades and read them cover to cover. Bear with my modest, imperfect efforts to serve country with my trusty #2 dixon-ticonderoga pencils. Perhaps, in time, this coin may grow on you. I hope it does. You will have a long time to give it some thought.

Do me a favor. Bust open some rolls and circulate some Bisons. They are worth five cents. That's it. Perhaps though, to a YN who gets one in circulation, it would be priceless.

Thanks for your time. Have an excellent day, y'all!
Peace -
JF/AIP
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 Posted 10/10/2005  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by choreboy1
Perhaps, in time, this coin may grow on you.


Let me first welcome you to the forum. Your post was very well said and thought out. Personal tastes will always vary and this is good for the hobby as a whole.

Jefferson has been on the Nickel since 1938 and has NOT grown on many people. Even die-hard nickel collectors focus on strike details of the coin versus design elements.
We as collectors are STUCK with Jefferson not because it is a good design, but because of the political awareness of Virginian legislators.

I have NEVER heard of anyone who considers the Jefferson design in any form as being more artistic than the Buffalo nickel which I might add is TRULY an American design.

Now I do not question the fact that Jefferson is a man that deserves to be remembered and honored, however, we have commemorative coins for this purpose.
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 Posted 10/11/2005  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adobero1 to your friends list
I actually like the cameo aspect of the design. Not cameo in the sense of deep mirrored fields and frosted devices, but the simplicity of the bust of Jefferson on an uncluttered field. (hmmm, sounds a little bit like an auction description) It'll be interesting to see what the actual coin looks like.
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 Posted 10/11/2005  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list
Hi choreboy1

Very insightful post !!

Perhaps as insightful as one who may have had a hand in the design?

Welcome to the forum!! I hope you did not stop by for just a single post !!!



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 Posted 10/11/2005  07:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list
Welcome choirboy
very interesting post - thank you
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 Posted 10/11/2005  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list
Great post choreboy1. Welcome to Coin Community. I look forward to your opinions in future posts. Mike
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 Posted 10/11/2005  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
Well, if we want to get technical the coins were actually a 6 month design but remained available in the mint sets and proof sets until the mint quits producing them. I have a little more faith in the business strikes, over the long haul, if they remain in rolls than ND does so we will have to wait and see. (I am talking years, not weeks or months). There are a lot of collectors, especially new collectors, seeking modern issues at this time and that is NOT how it used to be. Us old timers sought the oldies and goodies from days past and are willing to pay those premiums to get "aged" coinage that is, in our minds, very collectable and quite honestly "they just don't make them any more"!
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 Posted 10/11/2005  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stephen420 to your friends list
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Originally posted by national dealer

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I have NEVER heard of anyone who considers the Jefferson design in any form as being more artistic than the Buffalo nickel which I might add is TRULY an American design.

Now I do not question the fact that Jefferson is a man that deserves to be remembered and honored, however, we have commemorative coins for this purpose.



I totally agree about the Buffalo nickel. One of our most beautiful coins IMO. Look how they keep trying to find a way to bring it back. But, absent a return to the Buffalo concept, I think the obverse of the 2006 to be quite striking (as far as one can tell from what amounts to a pencil drawing) First and formost, it's a HUGE improvement on the ...ZZZZZZZZZZ...Jeff we've been stuck with since '38. I'm also not sure I agree that T. Jeff is a man who deserves to be more remembered. He had a dark side, and it wasn't confined to seducing the help. And the idea of facing the nation seems a little corny to me. Nevertheless, Jefferson remains weirdly endearing, and the portrait here seems especially revealling. One thing I like about it is that it's what he really looked like; a portrait from life. Also, his expression doesn't seem silly to me as it does to some. To me, it's more like you're at a cocktail party or a book signing or something, having a relaxed conversation about, say, why the tree of liberty must often be watered with blood, etc.
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 Posted 10/11/2005  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
choreboy1 it is very good to see you here! I, as you are probably already aware, the number ONE fan of the Buffalo nickel, both from the past and our new 2005! I waited a life time for that new Buffalo nickel. Haven't had such a rush since the buffalo dollar of 2001 and now, rumor still has it, the new 24K bullion coins will be reproductions of the old Buffalo nickel for 2006? Can you advise on this as I have already started saving my pennies for a 1/10 ounce, 1/4 ounce, 1/2 ounce and the full ounce coins. A one year grab at new gold with a buffalo on it will be a "KEEPER" in my book! Just hope it happens!
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 Posted 10/11/2005  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stujoe to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by Metalman

The portrait looks very good in pencil !! but I'm afraid it
will Lose all of the appeal as a coin!!



I thought the same thing when I first saw it. I actually think it is a very nice design. I jus think it will not translate well to a business strike coin. The proofs might look good, though.

The reverse? Same old, same old. The shoudl have gone to the real original design.

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 Posted 10/11/2005  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Becky to your friends list
Stujoe, I can't help it. Every time I see that reverse, I expect to see Barney Rubble coming out the door. It looks so cartoonish to me
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 Posted 10/11/2005  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stujoe to your friends list
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Originally posted by Becky

Stujoe, I can't help it. Every time I see that reverse, I expect to see Barney Rubble coming out the door. It looks so cartoonish to me



Maybe the normal Monticello has just worn so thin on me that I would take a Flintstone house over it at this point.

Come to think of it, the reverse of this coin might be an improvement over the 67 year old Monticello design:

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 Posted 10/11/2005  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
That reverse should please just about everyone as I see nothing political or poorly designed there!
Now, after giving old Jefferson another good look over I must say it is MOST definitly an improvement over the other Jefferson we have lived with all of our lives. At least the Mint is trying to make worthwhile changes compared to all the right or left "Flat" profiles we have lived with forever. I don't much care for Jefferson or some of his documented opinions, at the time of his fame, but that goes with most of the Presidents or politicians. Give me Lady Liberty or Buffalos any day!!!
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