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ICCS - MS-65 Or MS-66 ? - 1950 Silver Dollar (Victoria North)

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 Posted 06/10/2015  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
MS-65
Rev.-004 is Machine Doubling on the reverse.
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 Posted 06/10/2015  08:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list
its a MS65 to me as well, but could slip into a 66

That's a tough one
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 Posted 06/10/2015  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list
Here's a ICCS 1940 Victoria North MS66 10 Cent for comparison...

Photos are not quite as clear or spectacular though.

ICCS---MS-65-Or-MS-66-?---1950-Silver-Dollar-Victoria-North

ICCS---MS-65-Or-MS-66-?---1950-Silver-Dollar-Victoria-North


ICCS---MS-65-Or-MS-66-?---1950-Silver-Dollar-Victoria-North

ICCS---MS-65-Or-MS-66-?---1950-Silver-Dollar-Victoria-North
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 Posted 06/10/2015  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list
thats a really nice 10 cent piece

as for the dollar, are those marks on the coin? (the following):

Obverse: between E and X from REX, on the jaw, on the forehead right before the hair

Reverse: between CA of Canada and the tree and also on the right of the trees?
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 Posted 06/10/2015  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list
Paulsz - Can't really answer that as I don't have the coin in hand, it was sold on ebay but near the tress looks like a fingerprint to me although I'm not sure it would make a difference in the grade.

But here is the ebay link to the actual coin:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/151698651931...RK:MEBIDX:IT

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 Posted 06/10/2015  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
That is such a beautiful 65 from ICCS. So hard to find a large dollar surface so mark free.

In the past few years,..I've seen baggy dollars and 50 cent pieces graded by them as 65's..so I don't get this one..
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 Posted 06/10/2015  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
An ms66 dime cannot be compared to an ms66 dollar.

Unfortunately, it's apples to oranges.
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 Posted 06/10/2015  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list
What I have noticed lately is more of an ICCS acceptance of MS66/67 grading. PCGS has been grading coins as high as MS70 I believe. It seems that the MS66 is the New Norm and that MS65 have been dethroned as the King of Grades. This coin was at one point graded at MS65 because ICCS might not have graded higher (MS65 being the perfect coin). But now, there seems to be a demand for micro grading.

It is my opinion that if regraded today, ICCS might regrade it at MS66. PSGS/NGC I'm almost certain.
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 Posted 06/10/2015  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list
I believe this is the coin

http://www.icollector.com/1-00-1950...65_i21394056

From these pics on icollector, I would lean towards MS65. Nonetheless a stunning coin
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 Posted 06/10/2015  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list
doubleeagle59 - Why wouldn't the dime becompared? Because of the potentially limited usage that the dollar would get as compared to the dime ?
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 Posted 06/10/2015  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list
Paulsz - will have to call you Sherlock Paul from now on...
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 Posted 06/10/2015  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list
TaeKenDo, you can't compare the two because the dollar is a bigger, heavier coin and will by nature take more hits in the fields - and be allowed to do so - at the same assigned grade.
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 Posted 06/10/2015  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list

Quote:
will have to call you Sherlock Paul from now on...


i can get used to that lol


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1cent - Ok, I understand.
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 Posted 06/10/2015  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list
Paulsz - Ok Sherlock!
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