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Valued Member
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By the way, dollarman, thanks for the input.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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There have been some exceptionally excellent fakes of the Gothic Crown that have been produced.
Wonghinghi may be able to comment on this issue.
Under these circumstances, I have nowhere near enough expertise to pick the dud ones, when it comes to the Crowns.
This particular florin IMO, is a really nice genuine example.
Datewise I agree with 1884.
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sel, thanks for your comments. What grade would you give it? EF? AU?
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Bedrock of the Community
United Kingdom
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Looks OK to me. I'd say EF by British grading standards - there is a little wear on the highest points like the jewels in the crown and the faces of the lions in the English shields.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Thanks NumisRob. I see what you mean by wear on the faces of the lions. One lion's face resembles his rear end. In terms of value? I'm keeping the coin but I'm just curious. Thoughts?
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Apologies for making this comment but it looks fake to me... I collected these for a while and I can say I would definitely be cautious with this one. I hope I'm wrong
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Valued Member
Canada
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Hi Beeston. Why would you say it's fake without giving any evidence? This to me is irresponsible.
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Kafka, if you re-read my comment, I said it LOOKS fake. To me, it does look fake..that is not irresponsible, it is my opinion.
The obverse just doesn't look right, to me at least. I cannot put my finger on what it is exactly that doesn't look right, else sure, I would have added more info in my response.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Sometimes, it is a bit hard to pick the difference between wear and a light strike on lions' and leopards' faces on British coins, where there is little or no patination.
The face and the band on the crown on the left hand side of the picture are especially indistinct; perhaps a bit of grease may have come between die and planchet.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks like a close match to an 1884 florin pictured on Heritage. If it's a counterfeit it appears pretty convincing. How's the weight? Should be around 11.33 grams or so I think.
Gradewise looks very close to unc, at least by USA standards. Looks like it has some light hairlines on the obverse but does not appear harshly cleaned.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Thanks Jaobler. What was the florin on Heritage going for? Would you recommend getting it graded? I don't have scales for weight although I guess I could go to my local grocery store.
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What was the florin on Heritage going for? Prices vary with grade obviously. The Heritage coins were all certified by PCGS or NGC and the cheapest I saw was an "uncirculated details, scratched" piece which sold for $282. An MS-62 piece went for $470, MS-63 for $500-$700, MS-64 for $940 and $1880, and an NGC MS-65 went for $1265 which seems like a bargain. However, a lot of 3 uncertified florins grading EF-AU went for $305 back in 2005. That lot included dates 1871, 1884, and 1886. At a guess your piece (which looks like a solid AU by USA standards) might be valued in the $150-200 range, if free of problems. Apparently counterfeits are a real concern for Gothic florins so it might make sense to have it certified. I'd go with ANACS which is lowest cost and has a solid rep for authentication. |
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United States
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This is a very pretty florin, those clean fields are fantastic. This is easily AU 53 if not higher. No reason at all to think it's a forgery. Good luck.
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09/01/2015 02:50 am
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