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Numismatic White Whales - Why I Buy Lottery Tickets

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 Posted 06/23/2015  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aardspeed to your friends list
o my!!
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 Posted 06/23/2015  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list
Then how is it gold? Why did they have gold planchets?
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 Posted 06/23/2015  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Um, because mints strike gold coins too. Why is this a difficult concept?
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 Posted 06/23/2015  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Harmonica to your friends list
Possibly for a Canadian Maple Leaf of NCLT grandma bait but most likely some entrepreneur mint employee stamped it all out and leaked a few to some collectors or what have you over the years. They are called "Back Door Jobs".
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 Posted 06/23/2015  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list

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Um, because mints strike gold coins too. Why is this a difficult concept?


I know that. I was just wondering if they were making planchets out of gold that weighed that much and what they were used for.
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 Posted 06/23/2015  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Same question I asked, and I'm unsure why I haven't yet taken my own advice which follows:

Let's go find out for ourselves what this planchet could be. Believe I'll start in CCF's Canadian Coin Facts section, linked to the left.
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 Posted 06/23/2015  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
OK, I've drawn a blank. I can find no Canadian coin, nor any they might have minted for another country, in that weight of gold. One would think that knowing the planchet origin should be a prerequisite for attributing an off-metal strike....
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 Posted 06/23/2015  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list

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I can find no Canadian coin, nor any they might have minted for another country, in that weight of gold.


You think I didn't check already! The tools available on CCF come to great use, and I use them to their full extent.
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 Posted 06/23/2015  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
well SPP-Ottawa, that is spectacular! perhaps you could contact the dealer and offer other errors in trade? that would look good beside your other nickel dollars and nickel dollar errors....I think almost 75k is a little steep but if you want it, it is only a matter of getting it and what you're willing to give up for it while keeping in mind that it will be THE high light of the collection. if you go for it than good luck. It would bring joy to me knowing it was in your hands.
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 Posted 06/24/2015  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
They had one of these in the ANA auction in Cincinnati in 1980. The Canadian authorities requested it be withdrawn and the Secret Service stepped in to confiscate it.
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 Posted 06/24/2015  3:20 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Yes, it is a coin that is best owned by collectors south of the border. I still don't know if these still can be legally owned in Canada, although, I have seen this coin graded PCGS MS-62) in Sandy Campbell's coin case at shows in Montreal and Toronto...
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 Posted 06/24/2015  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
There is also a 1971 dollar struck on gold. Also, coins from 1969, 1970, and 1971 can also be found struck on sterling silver planchets.... same mystery applies, the RCM was not making silver or gold coins in those dates, except with the .500 Ag case silver dollar starting in 1971.

The dollars struck on the silver planchets have been sold in public auctions in Canada, so they are assumed to be perfectly ok to own. I have one from 1969, seen in my nickel dollar error collection at PCGS:

http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/sho...aspx?sc=1621

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 Posted 06/25/2015  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
Mike Byers sure does have some amazing error coins, he has several 2¢ errors I'd consider making ann offer on if I win the lottery, broadstruck, capped dies, revers brockerages, double struck and off center. All the big ones to have. Most of his 2¢ errors start around $40K and go north of $250K!
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 Posted 06/25/2015  12:37 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
These and the silver halves should Not exist. I appraised a collection for a prominent BC collectors estate and there were 2 1970 Silver fifty cents in the collection. ICCS told me not to even dream of sending them in for certification. I am pretty sure the original source for these was a prominent BC coin dealer from the time in question.. I sure hope the back door hurt the original mint criminals back end on the way out of the coining room in Ottawa. The puzzler on the gold dollars is just who did the blanks come from ? Hmm.
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 Posted 06/26/2015  01:00 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
That recently Jack? I have never heard of a silver 1970 50-cent... that is my birth year, and would love to have one... I can now add that to my "lottery-winning-list"

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