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Valued Member
 Poland
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All my coins I found I put to museum
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am not "sure" it is fake !
I am just not sure it is real either.
I have a faint memory of having seen a fake one of these. The fact that it is a rare and desirable type makes it so much easier to fool someone eager to believe.
Burying and or 'antiquing' an ancient coin is one way of making a fake coin real.
We recently saw a large silver coin of Syracuse which the owner came into by way of uncertain source. The coin looked really good. The fact that one of identical weight and similar marking led me to believe the same coin had been 'cooked' to make it taste better.
It smelled like poop to me.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Let me add I am dubious about the photo. Coins look a bit too good to have been freshly pulled from the earth.
Two thousand years of oxidation does not usually fall away so easily.
Bronze coins require conservation under almost all circumstances.
Something does not smell right to me
That's the last I will say
Perhaps one of our resident detectorists might chime in
I will believe what they say
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Valued Member
Poland
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OK I see that you don't dig... Condition of brass coins can be very different, and according to my small experience (3 years of digging) there is no regularity. From the same field I picked up sestertii and asses (I assume the same period +/- 200 years) completely wrecks. And this one almost mint. Sometimes even 100 yo brass coins look like piece of corroded sheet. A lot of factors included, but for me the greatest is pH of ground, metal composion and the most important - LUCK!! Because scratched by agricultural machines coins corrode quicker.
But I don't want to persuade You. Why should I? I don't want to sell it or something. For me it is priceless even if it costed 5$. 1900 years of history!!
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Valued Member
Poland
63 Posts |
Sorry "BRONZE" coins I meant of course.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3443 Posts |
Nice sharp lettering
well centered
Full complete legends
EF portraits
Unencrusted too
You have been digging up treasure for 3 years but you "are no expert".
Please help ID this sestertius ?
The museum has no clue ?
This isn't rocket science
I think I could go on but ........
Count me sceptical
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Valued Member
Poland
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the only thing that left me to say is:
thank you for appreciate my find ;)
better take a look at other (probably rare) sestertius of Manlia Scantilla that I found
Mike
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 United States
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FR, is more knowledgable on Roman AE coins than I will ever be. He is making valid points that raises concerns as to the coin being legit or not. In my non expert opinion the coin appears to be genuine, but with the level of skill the forgers in Eastern Europe have developed even experts can be fooled. My concern is that where these coins are supposedly being dug up at there are strict laws of taking artifacts for the ground. I'm sure you must need permits and licenses to dig.
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Valued Member
Poland
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that makes me even more proud!
I don't have any permissions, I risked a lot. But I'm a passionate. I dug on ordinary italian field about 4km from the ancient town. I didn't plunder ruins.
Tell me what is better? Dig them out with no permission and save them for future or leave them in ground and let them be destroyed year by year by chemical fertilization and agricultural machines?
Mike
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Well now I have heard enough to form an opinion ........
I think I will look for something else to amuse myself today.
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Moderator
United States
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Tell me what is better? Dig them out with no permission and save them for future or leave them in ground and let them be destroyed year by year by chemical fertilization and agricultural machines? Well, I guess the answer to that depends on your level of respect for the law, which in your case seems to be nonexistent. The same as your level of common sense, since you're posting about breaking the law in a public place, on the record. People like you are why these laws exist. |
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United States
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You have admitted that you are digging for artifacts in a country with strict rules preventing such activities without the proper license or permission. Weather you dig at ancient sites or not, if you find and artifact you are not allowed to keep it. You are plundering. It is illegal and morally wrong. You stated that you turn your finds over to museums, no museum that I know of would except plundered artifacts. You than ask for value of the coin. Why would you need that if you are giving them to a museum? Your activities are not something that this community condones. Your activities are not what this forum condones, it sends the wrong message. As far as I'm concerned you can find another place to post you illegal coins.
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Valued Member
Poland
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ok than just cancel my account and delete all my posts
yes it is very bad example for others
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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In the UK, the laws are pretty relaxed on detecting, at least compared to other countries. Having said that, if I came across 5 such coins of the type you have in your hand......
A. I would be ecstatic.
and B. I would be on the blower (phone) to the local FLO.
It's great to see items uncovered and not left to 'rot' in the ground but we all should remember the importance of preservation. Perhaps you should consider a trip to the UK for a hunt round some of the medieval sites we have, been a lot of decent hammered coming up just of late.
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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