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1859.. Variety Haxby # .."If Possible"..

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 Posted 08/03/2015  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Strach-Man to your friends list
Clean the green
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 Posted 08/03/2015  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialtokens to your friends list
Absent closer inspection, try Haxby 379 / H3.

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 Posted 08/04/2015  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
Doug...It can't be the H3 as the vine at 9 is not at all close to the above smooth vine at 9.
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I still think its E23a rev as per the O and leaf 9

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Don got it correctly.. It's a E23a on the Obv 37.. I should have also looked at the RP in the "O" in ONE and worked backwards from there..

Great work Don......and I wonder how often we find a new pairing in these 59's..?

The Don's and Doug's and nybirdy's and okiecoiner's and Alain's etc..and other expert 59'ers must have some new "unknown" pairings tucked away,.. and these should be added also to the "great Haxby body of work"..

If more pics are required on this one..you just have to ask for specifics..
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Clean the green


I'll have to take this cent to my dentist..I think that he has the necessary diamond tipped drills for that nasty stuff..
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Nice one DEVLEC that should work very well indeed
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Thanks for trying Don....greatly appreciated..

...and I really like the 23a that you've found.. That's a wonderful "new" match..(die pairing


Guess what !!
more to come
Cheers Don

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Guess what !!
more to come


Yes Don,..My feelings exactly.

...besides the others mentioned above..I feel that Gene or Dan or Rob would certainly also have some great gems to add to the Haxby work..
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DEVLEC please check your emails as I have sent you 1
Cheers Don

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08/05/2015 3:37 pm
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"Thanks very much for reporting this coin; it is definitely a new combination. It just remains to determine what."


Thanks again Don..Your email was tucked far far away and strangely sent to "spam".

I too am having trouble with the super restrictive > 100 kb max here. I'll also try to take a few more pics of stem #9 in the sun..

It's so close to E23a but the stem at 9 is not like the larger stem in the H3 or exactly like the E23a either.. ..



This #9 stem is a bit thicker as it reaches the leaf but without any breaks as it touches the leaf.

A couple of re-cut slips also show into the leaf,..but not that far in... and this is very similar to the slips in the E23a.

Please let me know of other pics that might help on other areas of this 59..and I will send whatever pics are needed .

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The 2nd to last photo here might be the best at this point to work with..when viewing the stem at 9..
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DEVLEC I have copied a couple of these photos and re enhanced them and sent them ---now its a waiting game
Cheers Don

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Cheers Don

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 Posted 08/05/2015  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JHax to your friends list
Here I am to weigh in (finally). It took Don to point out to me that this thread was on the forum. I've been very busy the last few weeks seeing to my retirement details and making a fast trip to New York.

Now to the new discovery. Yes, the obverse is Obv. 37, yes the reverse die is in the E group and yes, it has repunching of the O of ONE similar to that seen on E23a. So, yes to 37 + E23a? No. There are some wee problems:

1. On the face of it, it seemed unlikely to me that the new reverse die coupled with Obv. 37 could be E23a, as E23a is in the middle (not the end) of a series of reverses with Obv. 21.

2. It has already been noted that the detail of the last half of Stem 9 and the slip up onto Leaf 9 really seems to be different on the two reverses.

3. A comparison of the position of the 9 in the date (by overlaying of date photos) shows a clear difference between the two reverses.

In short, E23a and the die in the new combination with Obv. 37 are not the same. I'll have to do a little more checking, but my strong suspicion at this point is that this piece represents a new die pair with a previously unlisted reverse. If that is true, we have some interesting numbering implications. That issue, however, I'll reserve for a separate thread I'll start. It deals specifically with the numbering for my 1859 catalog.

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Thanks JHax for taking the time to look at, possible new die combo this is great news
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Thanks again for the expert feedback on this exciting new find..

D
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Here are a few sharper views of stem # 9..

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