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1993-D LMC Strange Crack

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 Posted 10/26/2015  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list

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Is a lamination possible on a plated cent?

No, I completely missed the date.
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 Posted 10/26/2015  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list
It is ok - I stay confused and miss dates!

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 Posted 10/26/2015  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list
I have been still puzzling over this. I tried a photo at an angle. It appears that the field to the SW of this feature is raised higher than the field to the NW. This is leading me to think that it is a bi-level die crack. What am I missing?



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 Posted 10/26/2015  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Looks like it is raised because of split plating? I see zinc in the last image. What split it? I'm not sure.
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 Posted 10/26/2015  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list

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I see zinc in the last image.


If it were a bi-level die crack, wouldn't zinc be visible also?
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 Posted 10/26/2015  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I don't this so as a die crack is incuse. An incuse line on the die would show as raised on the coin. But circulation may have split the raised crack open exposing the zinc making it raised?
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 Posted 10/26/2015  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list

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But circulation may have split the raised crack open exposing the zinc making it raised?


I can understand this.

However, I do not understand what you are saying here:


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I don't this so as a die crack is incuse.


Did you leave a word out?
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 Posted 10/26/2015  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I was answering your question:

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If it were a bi-level die crack, wouldn't zinc be visible also?


But I see what I forgot: I don't this so as a die crack is incuse on the die.


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10/27/2015 01:06 am
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 Posted 10/26/2015  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list
I don't think so, as a die crack is incuse on the die.
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 Posted 10/27/2015  06:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list
Thanks CM - I understand the message now. Of course I know that...and it produces a raised area(line) on the coin. It may be perspective and/or light/shadow plays, but in the last image I posted, the arrows sit on an area of the field which appears raised - higher than the area on the opposite side of the crack/line. I don't know what is going on between the last arrow and the Memorial top, but it looks like zinc deterioration to me.

So I continue to lean in the direction of thinking that this is a bi-level die crack.
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I don't think it's a bi-level, Pete. If it were, you'd see more zinc/rot. I believe the area you're seeing as raised is plating pushed up from oxidation underneath. There is no displacement due to the crack.
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 Posted 10/28/2015  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list
It's a 93-D Bizzaro Crack.
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I believe the area you're seeing as raised is plating pushed up from oxidation underneath.


I can understand that and it makes sense to me. Does that kind of thing have a name? Plating peel? Flake? ?

Thanks for your help.
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 Posted 10/28/2015  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list
Zinc Rot.
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 Posted 10/29/2015  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Zinc rot alters the coin.
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Note how the split lower SE on the mint mark start to rise at first. Sometimes it collapse in. And eventually the mint mark can fall off. Just part of the process.
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