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No longer with us
United States
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Ok thanks, I have the cardboard ones.
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Valued Member
United States
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At the moment I keep mine in 2x2 Cardboard Mylar Holders. As my collection grows I'll probably put those into 2x2 boxes. My "valuable" coins $50+ will most likely go into Air Tite Holders w/ Rings...when I get some.
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New Member
 United States
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just out of curiosity, does temperature/humidity affect the way you should store graded coins?
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Valued Member
United States
168 Posts |
my are all in slabs in a very safe climate controlled place within the house. I'm not a millionaire so no need for special codes and trap doors.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Storage of coins is actually pending on many, many things. Such as your invironment, how you store them, what is in the area, etc. For example some of the previous statements here are absolutely rediculous. For example the Darkening of Silver is not normally Oxydation but possibly Nitration, Fluoradation or even Sulfurazation. The rediculous fear of PVC is also grossly exagerated. PVC is a stable polymer or a multi elemented plastic and is a covalent compound. It melts at 212 degrees F. Very soft PVC's have Phthalates added to make them more flexable but those usually leak off after a period of time making the PVC safe. Oh if your so worried about PVC go to any hardware store and note the massive amount of PVC piping used for the water supply of your homes. Will this mean you insides will turn green? Placing a coin in an air tight, fire proof safe is also pending on the air you shut in when you close the door. Many people have those safes in a basement where there is high humidity and when the close the safe, they seal in that humidity. Some more expesive safes have a dehumidifying system for that reason. Where you live makes a difference. If you live in an area where there are or have been open hearth steel mills the area may be rich in Sulfur compounds that will attack the Silver or Copper in coins forming Sulfides, sulfates. Same with some Fossil burning types of power plants. If you live real close to may swimming pools that utilize Chlorides you may end up with darkening of your Silver coins. Silver and Copper are both highly reactive with many things such as Nitrates, Fluoriines, Sulfurs, etc. Just keep all your coins in as much air tight containers as possible.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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But the all plastic ones with a plactic pouch, those are the bad ones. They are fine for short term storage such as shipping. But they will cause PVC damage if you keep the coins in them. It wont always happen right away but it can. You will see alittle bit of greenish stuff on the coin. The green stuff is kind of sticky once theres alittle bit on the coin. Anyhow, that green stuff is what eats the coin. Even if you take the coin out of the PVC holder, the PVC damage continues to grow and eat the coin. The safest way to kill and remove the PVC damage is a bath in Acetone and then rinse with distilled water.
The above statements are completely bogus. You can contact manufacturers of those plastic flips and they will tell you they do NOT have those made of PVC. Some way, way back did have PVC as a part of the process but due to massive complaints, none now use PVC. Zip Lock and similar plastic bags that could and are used for foods do not contain PVC. Green stuff? Just what is that green stuff? PVC if it did attack Silver would not turn green. If you have green sticky stuff on your coins, you really have a problem and it is not PVC. Just how does this sticky green stuff eat a coin? Coins that accumulate toning, corroding, tarnishing are metals that are combining chemically with another substance such as a gas and humidity. A coin, any metal actually, requires gasses such as air and humidity to start a chemical process. If coins are kept in an air tight invironment, nothing will happen.
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New Member
United States
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Quote: just out of curiosity, does temperature/humidity affect the way you should store graded coins?
Temperature and humidity are two of the greatest factors in coin toning due to environmental conditions, especially with high purity/ high grade coins (BU/Proof; copper and silver). Exposed copper and silver react to various chemical impurities in the air. In the engineering world we use sealed environmental chambers to expose electronic devices to elevated temperatures and humidity. This greatly accelerates the damage caused by contaminates in the air. It's an extreme example, but in the presence of very minute amounts of common impurities, high heat and humidity can destroy metal finishes in a very short time. This isn't going to happen in an average household obviously. But coin toning is due to minor reactions with common chemicals in the air, heat and humidity just accelerate the process.
Back to your question . . . slabs are supposed to be airtight. But sometimes coins do tone after encapsulation. So if you have a coin you value, whether it's slabbed or not, heat, humidity and trace amounts of common indoor air pollutants are the enemy. Keep your coins in air tight containers away from heat, in a dry place. As pointed out through out this thread there are many things that can be used to store your coins in an air tight environment including ziplocks, special coin capsules, etc.
One final comment about safes, many [people keep safes in the basement, many basements are damp! In you have a new safe don't use it for valuable coins until you know it is going to be free of internal condensation! Many of the home security safes available have condensation problems.
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Valued Member
United States
294 Posts |
Most of my coins are in 2X2 Mylar in plastic sleeves keep in ring binders .My completed sets are in a hidden safe .Other are in a locked file cabinet .I use a silica floor dry material in paper bags in my safe and change them once a month or so .Question on your cardboard Mylars do you put the value & grade on them or leave them the way you bought them ?I redo all mine and I put the amount I paid on them along with Id Info . Seeking Info Rainman 
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New Member
United States
32 Posts |
I generally store circulated coins in mylar 2x2's and archival pages. Slabs are stored bagged & boxed in a dry safe. I keep everything of value / high grade in air tight storage. I always ditch 2x2's and flips that coins come to me in, opting for known archival materials.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
Most of my coins are in 2X2 Mylar in plastic sleeves keep in ring binders .My completed sets are in a hidden safe .Other are in a locked file cabinet .I use a silica floor dry material in paper bags in my safe and change them once a month or so .Question on your cardboard Mylars do you put the value & grade on them or leave them the way you bought them ?I redo all mine and I put the amount I paid on them along with Id Info . Seeking Info Rainman
For one thing writing what you paid for a coin on the 2x2 is not a bad idea but I just see no purpose in the long run. Eventually, if you are a nut like me, you will have many of those long, Whitman Red cardboard boxes with hundreds and hundreds of 2x2's in them. Those prices loose their meaning after time unless you plan on selling them so you'll know what you have lost or gained. For one thing, if you do use 2x2's and staple them shut, try this. Blow into the ends to see if air goes through. Usually they allow air to pass if stapled. This means those coins are not safe from the elements. For long storage, seal the sides with clear tape. If you use a safe and it is in a basement, get a dehumidifier for the entire basement. I tried an experiment with 12 of those Silica Gel packs in my basement all at the same time. My Hygrometer registered over 40% all the time. I threw them away ane reconnected my dehumidifier. Hygrometer now registers 25 to 28% all the time.
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Valued Member
United States
294 Posts |
Just Carl thanks for your great Info. You got me thinking about the 2x2 & staple thing . So I tried using a Elmer's glue stick and it worked no air and no glue on coin . Seeking :Why not glue stick Rainman 
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Valued Member
United States
130 Posts |
Another comment on the humidity issue - It's supposed to be bad for my guitars, my coins and I'm sure I can think of more. I use lots of big dessicant packs and occasionally dry them in the oven. This is true even in safe deposit boxes. I'm in a very humid state and so far my precautions have been sufficient.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
533 Posts |
So, I have enough morgans now that I can justify looking into a proper way to store and display them. Is a Danisco Album enough protection? I know that silver is fairly reactive, does toning hurt the grade of the coins any? I guess I should have decided to collect Liberty Head or St Gaudens Gold Eagles instead. (gold is VERY nonreactive). I know there is a reason that I didn't, but what was it?  Hmmmmm.......
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1014 Posts |
Why is 1899 'no longer with us'? 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
So, I have enough morgans now that I can justify looking into a proper way to store and display them. Is a Danisco Album enough protection? I know that silver is fairly reactive, does toning hurt the grade of the coins any?
Any type of Album, not a folder, is sufficient to a degree. None are air tight which means if air can get in, so can humidity. And it is not just humidity that attacks coins, many substances in the air also attack coins. I suggest to do as I've been doing for many, many years. Place the entire Album in a Zip Lock type plastic bag. Prior to closing, push out as much air as possible. Prior to Zip Lock bags I just used plastic bags. Been doing this for many, many, many years and no problems yet. As to the necessity of gel packs in a safe deposit vault. Every bank I know of now has air conditioning systems. their humidity level is far less than anything your gel packs can do.
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