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My Latest Galerius (Reverse Mark?)

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 Posted 12/23/2015  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list
The mark on the reverse isn't part of the original design. It is either a post burial encrustation or possibly a piece of stray metal that was inadvertently struck into the coin.

It is the 4th officina as denoted by the "delta" in the mint mark
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 Posted 12/23/2015  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list
Here it is the fourth officina (delta) ; The gamma is a control mark , you can find more explanation in the history of the mint of Heraclea just before the catalogue , especially p 524 : Group IV.albert
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 Posted 12/23/2015  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list
Which catalogue?
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 Posted 12/23/2015  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list
Ric , VI , Heraclea mint p 524 for your coin of group IV , 308-309.albert
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 Posted 12/23/2015  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
I agree with Biancasdad. Most likely some type of deposit on the coin.
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 Posted 12/23/2015  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
Not my area of expertise ......yet !
I have been buying heavily into tetrarchy folles lately but they are all western mints.

Acetone will not harm a coin at all. Similar to alcohol but more volatile.
Excellent for removing any oils or moisture. It will leave the surface dry as bone.
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 Posted 12/25/2015  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list
Thanks all .
Nice one Albert really informative and interesting read and has cleared up a few questions I had.I still can't find info on control markings but I've seen them somewhere and can't remember where.Maybe it is just a deposit but up close it really looks formed if you know what I mean.
How long to soak the coin in acetone ? I also thought about soaking it in olive oil any thoughts?

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 Posted 12/25/2015  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list
RIC does not mention any mark in the fields , so Biancasdad and Echizento are right,I think .You will not find many information on control marks , because it it very difficult or impossible to explain them;albert
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 Posted 12/25/2015  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list
Ok thanks Albert at least I know know my attribution of the coin was correct a nice feel good.I feel much more confident now thanks to the help received on this forum.
Gracias saludos Paul
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 Posted 12/25/2015  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paul Bulgerin to your friends list
I agree with the other comments that it's either a mark on an encrustation.

Any letters in the reverse field would be higher up on the coin.
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 Posted 12/25/2015  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
I only recommended the acetone as a remedy if you applied a dab of oil and did not like the darkened look. A quick ten minute bath in acetone will cleanse the surface and restore the original appearance. A prolonged bath in olive oil might permanently darken the coin. As the patination is already 'black' any darkening will be relatively minor.
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 Posted 01/07/2016  05:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list
Well here it is after 2 weeks in olive oil nice dark uniform black green patina.Really pleased with this..my first coin I've cleaned.Any thoughts appreciated?


My-Latest-Galerius-Reverse-Mark?

Bought it like this...


My-Latest-Galerius-Reverse-Mark?

Thanks for everyones help.
Saludos Paul
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 Posted 01/07/2016  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lrbguy to your friends list
Considering what you had to start with you did a super job cleaning up that coin!

If you have access to a microscope that will let you work on the coin while in its field of view, then you might be able to clean up some of the lettering on the reverse using a needle or dental pick, but that would be frosting on the cake. If you do that, be sure to hold the instrument close to its tip to avoid uncontrolled springing.

I would remove that occlusion you were asking about, since it is not a letter gamma as someone suggested. Wrong shape for that and entirely inappropriate for the issue as designed. See Sutherland in RIC VI (as mentioned by Albert) for details on how the series had developed at Heraclea up to this point. It will tell you what should be there, and what should not.
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 Posted 01/09/2016  09:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list
Great read on the Heraclea mint.I've tried to remove the occlusion but it doesn't want to leave!!So I'll leave as is and bag it.I'm in the process of cleaning a couple of other coins ...as I'm now addicted!!Will post them when finished.

Thanks for everyones help saludos Paul
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 Posted 01/09/2016  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list
very nice,good work.albert
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