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1937 Narrow Panel - J/A

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 Posted 03/29/2019  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Regent to your friends list

1937-Narrow-Panel---J/A


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 Posted 03/29/2019  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add walk2dwater to your friends list
Another 2 awesome notes "Regent"


Quote:
How many of these exist? ...
How often do you see this note when your at shows or dealers?


According to 31st Ed of Charlton, there are 25 notes "recorded." Since several posters have claimed that their note wasn't recorded, graded or registered with any database, we can assume there's at least about 30 in collectors hands (that we now know about from this forum). There's probably far more than that out there- (very few collectors participate in these forums) but still a very tough note to acquire (in any condition).

And although I haven't attended any shows (or visit coin shops/dealers) for quite some time, I can tell you that I have rarely seen the H/A nor the J/A "narrow panels" for sale in the past.

W2W
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03/29/2019 1:55 pm
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 Posted 03/29/2019  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Regent to your friends list
It took me almost 10 years to have those two

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 Posted 10/06/2021  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Colhand1 to your friends list

1937-Narrow-Panel---J/A

I recently purchased another J/A note on ebay
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 Posted 10/07/2021  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list
That's a nice looking example, I've added it to a running list on the Canadian Paper Money Forum.
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Here was the note I owned up until a few months ago. I had purchased it raw and sent it for grading.

1937-Narrow-Panel---J/A
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10/07/2021 5:41 pm
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 Posted 10/07/2021  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Colhand1 to your friends list
Do you mind telling how you came about owning it? I am always interested in finding out about the stories that go along with the things I like to collect - it gives me a connection. I do plan on sending mine in next year to BCS when they are having their summer special. I also try to get every H/A and osborne note I can get my hands on.
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 Posted 10/08/2021  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add walk2dwater to your friends list
Great adds guys!
(I wish I owned one! I only have the H/A $1)

Here's a link to the CPMF Registry:
https://cdnpapermoney.com/notes/reg.../66/295/list

-36 reported on that registry & I'm seeing 4 more here (yet to be added) so a paltry 40 in total. A super scarce note, great to own in any condition. (BTW: don't let the low # of H/A on the registry be misleading- these are much more common than the J/A but still tough to find).

"Osborne-Towers" had 5 prefixes (50,000,000) but are much tougher in "Original" (or EPQ) & higher UNC grades.

[As a side note:
2M Osborne-Towers $2 so very tough (low BV for UNC IMO)
8.8M Osborne-Towers $5 but the most elusive in AU to GEM
6.4M Osborne-Towers $10 & much easier to acquire in AU to GEM than the Twenty
1.6M Osborne-Towers $20 and easier to obtain in higher grades but still quite a tough note to source
100,000 Osborne-Towers $50 - I have seen a few of these in ragged VG (which I should have probably tried to buy) so they're very much as elusive as the FIVE or even tougher.
70,000 Osborne-Towers $100 I've seen many more of these in higher grades (likely as they were stashed in SDB) so much like the $20
15,000 Osborne-Towers $1000 these notes are tough & sought after by World collectors so demand is high too].
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10/08/2021 10:09 am
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Mine was also an ebay purchase Colhand.

Walk2dwater, I've created a list of unlisted H/A and J/A notes on the CPMF I'm not sure when they will be added to the registry but I like to keep it updated.

https://cdnpapermoney.com/index.php?topic=15809.0

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 Posted 10/16/2021  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Colhand1 to your friends list
I have 6 H/A notes not listed in your list.
They are all circulated notes
Serial #'s
1478183
2761007
7135226
7808255
8422435
9144860
Can send pictures if needed for verification.
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 Posted 10/16/2021  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Colhand1 to your friends list
I look constantly for the Osborne signature on banknotes - I am sure that I am not alone!
I have the $5 graded VF25 and the $1 and $2 graded VF35. Plus multiples of the $1 and $2 that are not graded, perhaps next year I'll send them (along with the H/A's) into BCS if they run their special again in the summer.
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 Posted 10/16/2021  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
@ Canadian-Banknotes
What is the purpose of the registry?
If I add my seven H/A notes to Colhand1's six we have instantly increased the supply by 10%, this would probably reduce their potential value by a similar amount.
It's the perception of scarcity that drives demand and thus prices.
I'm not about to cut off my nose to spite my face.

H/A notes are not scarce, there are probably half a dozen for sale on ebay.

J/A is anther story.
I can see the purpose of a registry for those as we don't know how many were printed, and the list should be updated as higher numbered examples are found.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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10/16/2021 2:42 pm
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 Posted 10/17/2021  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add walk2dwater to your friends list

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What is the purpose of the registry?


If a registry is deemed necessary for a particular prefix than it is generally accepted amongst the collector community that the PREFIX (variation) is very tough & collectible. Registries are usually set up to get a grasp on the high & low serial number ranges.

With all due respect, I really doubt that entering your note(s) into a registry will affect the BV (unless there was a hoard discovered & several were entered- but this is pretty unlikely for the notes we're discussing). For 99% of the scarcer BoC issues full SN ranges were not released.

I believe registries are set up for getting a better picture of high & low serial number. If your note falls within the known ranges than your note would be expected to fetch a similar BV as catalogue. If the Serial Number (SN) of your note falls above or below the expected ranges the note may actually get a higher than expected Book Value. Usually registries show that certain small ranges (reams) of notes were released.

Although extensive ranges have been reported for the H/A it is doubtful that a full 10M were released. This has happened many times over (take the Osborne-Towers $5, the Devil Face replacements as examples). There are registries set up for the above & scarce replacements. The registries take up volunteer collector time so how well they're maintained is another matter.

Often bank distribution centres will get recalls. More recently the 2003 BER, BEK & BEL & the 2011 HAF-HAL $5 were recalled. There may be registries set up for these too.

That's my best guess. Hope that helps answer your question "DBM"
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10/17/2021 10:47 am
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 Posted 10/18/2021  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list
Great explanation by walk2dwater.

Like you said DBM, the H/A notes are not scarce (this is common knowledge, so updating the registry should have no effect on values). Someone started the registry for these notes years ago and had very few listed, so I added as many as I could from past auctions, and ebay listings to fill it out. There are probably quite a few (H/A notes, not J/A) on ebay now that haven't been added to my list.
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10/18/2021 10:19 pm
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